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Wilhelmina, "Moeder des vaderlands", Liberation:
https://en.numista.com/catalogue/pieces45492.html
https://en.numista.com/catalogue/pieces74744.html
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Απόσπασμα: "thelet"The one duit coin of West Friesland dated 1769 is listed twice:Obviously, they have different inscriptions on the reverse.
https://en.numista.com/catalogue/pieces98902.html
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https://en.numista.com/catalogue/pieces36196.html
Can you remove on of these?
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Απόσπασμα: "ken6528"https://en.numista.com/catalogue/pieces85177.htmlBut there are different portraits ...
https://en.numista.com/catalogue/pieces68029.html
Are these the same coin and 1 should be removed?
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Απόσπασμα: "radrick007"Hello and good morning, just found this duplicate pair in the UK Conders:Done.
Original (to keep): https://en.numista.com/catalogue/pieces53235.html
Duplicate (to delete): https://en.numista.com/catalogue/pieces75856.html
Would suggest the duplicate coin owners are added to the top line (DH#12) of the original page.
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Si c'est un grand plaisir d'être reconnu par ses amis, c'est peut-être encore plus flatteur d'être reconnu par ses adversaires.
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Hi, This is a duplicate in catalog:
https://en.numista.com/catalogue/pieces52130.html
https://en.numista.com/catalogue/pieces61514.html
The information in first one is a little better, so please delete the second one.
Mintage date for both of them is incorrect. Year must be: 1370-1386 (in Persian calendar)
Thanks.
https://en.numista.com/catalogue/pieces52130.html
https://en.numista.com/catalogue/pieces61514.html
The information in first one is a little better, so please delete the second one.
Mintage date for both of them is incorrect. Year must be: 1370-1386 (in Persian calendar)
Thanks.
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Απόσπασμα: "mrfane"Hi, This is a duplicate in catalog:Hello.
https://en.numista.com/catalogue/pieces52130.html
https://en.numista.com/catalogue/pieces61514.html
The information in first one is a little better, so please delete the second one.
Mintage date for both of them is incorrect. Year must be: 1370-1386 (in Persian calendar)
Thanks.
Please check again. In the first page not all dates are listed. The pages differ in the KM# numbers.
(You can change the Gregorian date yourself (button D) )
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Απόσπασμα: "Sulfur"Keep: https://en.numista.com/catalogue/pieces141843.htmlDone.
Delete: https://en.numista.com/catalogue/pieces140476.html
For some reason, I had the delete one listed as being a schilling, so I did not find it when I added the keep one. My apologies.
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Απόσπασμα: "Cyrillius"Hi,
Απόσπασμα: "mrfane"Hi, This is a duplicate in catalog:Hello.
https://en.numista.com/catalogue/pieces52130.html
https://en.numista.com/catalogue/pieces61514.html
The information in first one is a little better, so please delete the second one.
Mintage date for both of them is incorrect. Year must be: 1370-1386 (in Persian calendar)
Thanks.
Please check again. In the first page not all dates are listed. The pages differ in the KM# numbers.
(You can change the Gregorian date yourself (button D) )
I searched for it (in Numismaster site) there is no such a coin as KM#B1264
and yes. year list in first coin is not correct. My fault.
Year list must be 1370-1386 (Persian calendar)
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Απόσπασμα: "mrfane"Then I suggest first complete the first page, and then delete the second page.
Απόσπασμα: "Cyrillius"Hi,
Απόσπασμα: "mrfane"Hi, This is a duplicate in catalog:Hello.
https://en.numista.com/catalogue/pieces52130.html
https://en.numista.com/catalogue/pieces61514.html
The information in first one is a little better, so please delete the second one.
Mintage date for both of them is incorrect. Year must be: 1370-1386 (in Persian calendar)
Thanks.
Please check again. In the first page not all dates are listed. The pages differ in the KM# numbers.
(You can change the Gregorian date yourself (button D) )
I searched for it (in Numismaster site) there is no such a coin as KM#B1264
and yes. year list in first coin is not correct. My fault.
Year list must be 1370-1386 (Persian calendar)
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There is a second referee who can correctly combine them. 
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Απόσπασμα: "Cyrillius"Done.
Απόσπασμα: "mrfane"Then I suggest first complete the first page, and then delete the second page.
Απόσπασμα: "Cyrillius"Hi,
Απόσπασμα: "mrfane"Hi, This is a duplicate in catalog:Hello.
https://en.numista.com/catalogue/pieces52130.html
https://en.numista.com/catalogue/pieces61514.html
The information in first one is a little better, so please delete the second one.
Mintage date for both of them is incorrect. Year must be: 1370-1386 (in Persian calendar)
Thanks.
Please check again. In the first page not all dates are listed. The pages differ in the KM# numbers.
(You can change the Gregorian date yourself (button D) )
I searched for it (in Numismaster site) there is no such a coin as KM#B1264
and yes. year list in first coin is not correct. My fault.
Year list must be 1370-1386 (Persian calendar)
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Hello,
No they're not, the second link is just missing the ND and 1808 lines the first one does.
First (left) second (right)
No they're not, the second link is just missing the ND and 1808 lines the first one does.
First (left) second (right)
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Yes, both those Ottoman coins are the same. The year written on the coins is a frozen date, 1223, with a regnal year (in this case, 22 to 25). The pages are just formatted differently.
1223 is written on the coin, which does translate to 1808 in the Gregorian calendar, as the first page says. 1223 with regnal year 22 is 1829, 1223 with regnal year 23 is 1830, and so on (which is reflected in the comments).
On the second page, 1244 is written nowhere on the coin, but that is the date you need to get the brackets to say 1829.
This is how the pages look, looking at it like: date - (bracket date) - mint letter - comment
1223 - (1808) - 22 - 1829
1244 - (1829) - 22 - 1223
This is how the pages should both probably look:
1223 (1829) - 22 - No comment (unless you want the date shown in Arabic numerals, which could be beneficial).
I heard somewhere the referee might be able to manually change the dates in the brackets, but I remember seeing many coins not like that in the Ottoman Empire, so maybe that is not the case. Overall, the first page probably has the more correct format (as well as more information), but... it has the wrong pictures displayed. The ones it shows are of KM#599. Also, all these coins would have a regnal year, and I have never heard of nor seen a dateless one of these. Maybe those lines are there for really worn coins? I would think to delete those two lines, but I do not think I can make that call.
Anyways.
Keep: https://en.numista.com/catalogue/pieces78829.html
Delete: https://en.numista.com/catalogue/pieces78828.html
1223 is written on the coin, which does translate to 1808 in the Gregorian calendar, as the first page says. 1223 with regnal year 22 is 1829, 1223 with regnal year 23 is 1830, and so on (which is reflected in the comments).
On the second page, 1244 is written nowhere on the coin, but that is the date you need to get the brackets to say 1829.
This is how the pages look, looking at it like: date - (bracket date) - mint letter - comment
1223 - (1808) - 22 - 1829
1244 - (1829) - 22 - 1223
This is how the pages should both probably look:
1223 (1829) - 22 - No comment (unless you want the date shown in Arabic numerals, which could be beneficial).
I heard somewhere the referee might be able to manually change the dates in the brackets, but I remember seeing many coins not like that in the Ottoman Empire, so maybe that is not the case. Overall, the first page probably has the more correct format (as well as more information), but... it has the wrong pictures displayed. The ones it shows are of KM#599. Also, all these coins would have a regnal year, and I have never heard of nor seen a dateless one of these. Maybe those lines are there for really worn coins? I would think to delete those two lines, but I do not think I can make that call.
Anyways.
Keep: https://en.numista.com/catalogue/pieces78829.html
Delete: https://en.numista.com/catalogue/pieces78828.html
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@Sulfur
Thanks for typing all that, I wanted to type out an explanation but was too tired to do it earlier.
First coin should be kept IMO.
Speaking of bracketed dates, this isn't a duplicate; there's a few coins in Egypt (and maybe a few other Islamic calendar countries) that have a Gregorian date on the coin, yet are still bracketed.
Example:https://en.numista.com/catalogue/pieces5592.html
Thanks for typing all that, I wanted to type out an explanation but was too tired to do it earlier.
First coin should be kept IMO.Speaking of bracketed dates, this isn't a duplicate; there's a few coins in Egypt (and maybe a few other Islamic calendar countries) that have a Gregorian date on the coin, yet are still bracketed.
Example:https://en.numista.com/catalogue/pieces5592.html
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No problem!
It might actually be more easy to search if the Gregorian date is in the brackets on those coins. In the advanced search, 1335 can be typed into "Year" and 1916 can be typed into "Gregorian date", and the same coin will come up in both searches.
The problem with Ottoman coins (and other coins that use regnal years) is that the system that converts Arabic dates into the Gregorian calendar does not take the regnal year into consideration (like this one: https://en.numista.com/catalogue/pieces113400.html).
(Although, this topic should probably be in its own thread so the Duplicate Listings one will not stray off-topic.)
It might actually be more easy to search if the Gregorian date is in the brackets on those coins. In the advanced search, 1335 can be typed into "Year" and 1916 can be typed into "Gregorian date", and the same coin will come up in both searches.
The problem with Ottoman coins (and other coins that use regnal years) is that the system that converts Arabic dates into the Gregorian calendar does not take the regnal year into consideration (like this one: https://en.numista.com/catalogue/pieces113400.html).
(Although, this topic should probably be in its own thread so the Duplicate Listings one will not stray off-topic.
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