EddievB
Έγινε μέλος στις 9 Οκτ 2013
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Hi guys!
Some time back I bought this coin and just now I noticed that the 1898 edition is pretty rare because it was only minted in proof quality.
I'm not very good at recognizing fakes so can someone tell me if it's fake or just a deteriorated proof?
The coin is:
https://en.numista.com/catalogue/pieces1292.html
And here are the pictures, thanks in advance!
Eddie
klei92
Έγινε μέλος στις 25 Δεκ 2018
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Αναρτήθηκε: 3 Φεβ 2020, 23:28
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What about weight and other measurements? Are they ok?
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EddievB
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Αναρτήθηκε: 3 Φεβ 2020, 23:54
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It weighs around 0.1 gram less than it should which is probably due to wear. The diameter checks out.
derf
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IMHO, it's real .. The denticles, obv and rev are uniform ..
What about the edge lettering .. are the letters uniform depth ... ?
? Format Format Format ? ?
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EddievB
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The edge lettering is a bit shallow (don't know what's standard for coins this old) but all uniform at least.
Grinya
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Τροποποιήθηκε: 4 Φεβ 2020, 09:44
Hello,
This is fake. you can google pictures of similar coin with the same wear and tear, e.g. dot at about 6 o'clock + scratch or die crack before 50.
Hope you didn't pay too much)
My personal list of scammers from Numista: erniemix, yvain, CassTaylor
derf
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Αναρτήθηκε: 4 Φεβ 2020, 09:42
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Απόσπασμα: "EddievB" The edge lettering is a bit shallow (don't know what's standard for coins this old) but all uniform at least.The depth is not a real concern, it's whether the letters a uniform depth. If they are then I'd say real ..
? Format Format Format ? ?
Do not argue with ignorant people .. !! They will drag you down to their level, then pulverize you with experience ...
klei92
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Lets see if more users give their opinion but weight is always a good indicator and with that little diference, probably it is a good one
Edit. Didnt saw Grinya's answer, maybe its a very good fake? ?
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ArnoV
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I find the coin highly suspicious:
Firstly, it has a 'sandy' surface, as if it wasn't printed on a smooth planchet.
In addition the details on the eagle and coats of arms are very rough, but the details are not worn of, but rather they were already rough on the die.
EddievB
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Απόσπασμα: "Grinya" Hello,
This is fake. you can google pictures of similar coin with the same wear and tear, e.g. dot at about 6 o'clock + scratch or die crack before 50.
Hope you didn't pay too much)(Unfortunately) I think you're right because my coin is similar. Didn't pay a lot and I'm definitely keeping it because it looks nice. Thanks everyone!
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