New Jülich coins - 1610

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So far there is only one coin under City of Jülich, but...
I was searching for information of siege coins when I found a Jülich siege coin picture, and found out that the coin in the picture is not on Numista.
The coin was a 3 Taler 1610 from Jülich. I requested it as "Jülich notklippe" first, and then I found more information.

"Struck during the one-month siege of the Jülich fortress.
Siege coins worth 1 to 20 talers were struck of silver, the largest piece 90 grams. Additionally, a 40 thaler gold coin was struck. The number indicates the value. R stands for Emperor Rudolf II and L stands for Archduke Leopold V."


As I have searched I have found proof and pictures of the following coins and requested them to be added:

2 Taler: https://en.numista.com/catalogue/pieces146870.html
3 Taler: https://en.numista.com/catalogue/pieces146697.html
5 Taler: https://en.numista.com/catalogue/pieces146873.html
8 Taler: https://en.numista.com/catalogue/pieces146872.html

A 10 taler or/and a 16 taler coin may exist
20 and 40 taler coins most likely exist, but so far I have found nothing more than a small article and the weight of the 20 taler (60g)

Does anyone of you know anything about these?
As I have found out more information, I also found a picture:

Notice that every coin in that picture are from Jülich according to the person who took the photo.

The coin within the orange circle is the only Jülich coin on Numista.
The purple ones - I have no idea
In the middle there is a older Jülich siege klippe from the 1500s.

See the coin that the arrow points to? Its most likely the 10 taler coin:

The thickest coin could be the 20 taler. Atleast by thinking that the coin must be quite heavy (and large) as the 20 stuber coin is 8.88g 36mm.

And, last but not least, the yellow coin on the back. I'm quite sure that is, or at least may be the 40 taler coin.

Still missing information of the 1 taler coin.


* Just noticed that the large silver coin has 4 "X" marks on it. It may be a silver 40 taler coin (?)
Im going to add the 10 taler.
Still unsure:

1 taler
20 taler
40 taler
The book for the Coins can be found here https://www.zvab.com/buch-suchen/titel/die-j%FClicher-notklippen/autor/neumann/ and not that expenive actually. Was thinking of buying it, but numismatic books start to be a bit of an addiction to me must have 50 or so now.
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