Please help identify these two coins, I have absolutely no idea what they are

Please help me to identify these 2 coins or tokens or whatever they may be.
cheers tony k

Try www.zeno.ru, that is a better site.

Okay,

So number one looks like a religious tablet. Being Japanese, I don't know much about religion and I don't think I can identify it any further.

Number two looks like a Jodpuri coin. Now, I think that's the state name, since I haven't checked, but their coins have a sun on the obverse sometimes. That big round bump on the "reverse" photo that you have looks like that. I'm pretty sure this coin isn't on Numista yet.

Forgot this coin/token, I have found a very similar coin here.
https://en.numista.com/catalogue/pieces37134.html

If anyone has any more information I would be very grateful.

Try this
http://www.coinnetwork.com/photo/sikh-paisa-of-amritsar-with-4?context=user
http://www.coinnetwork.com/photo/sikh-paisa-of-amritsar-with-3?context=user



http://www.ngccoin.com/poplookup/WorldCoinPrices.aspx?category=129862&worldcoinid=330473&FromSearch=true

Now that I look at it,

I see a 50 (五十) on the coin. It's very common for old 1600's coins to have impure metal round bars with chopmarks or "countermarks" with the value on them. I think this might be one of them, but I haven't seen one not made of silver before.