Holed coin or coin with hole?

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50 Pfennig Neustadt im Schwarzwald [Stadt, Baden]
https://en.numista.com/catalogue/pieces108414.html

According to the description this coin is supposed to be "round with hole at the top", but on the picture only the obverse seems to have a hole ...
1) either the reverse picture is not from the same coin
2) the original coin is not supposed to be holed (so wrong description of shape)
3) some weird coin magic is going on where a hole is only visible from one side

please cast your votes ... or provide correct information

though I hope it's 3) ... my logic says the picture is just from a damaged (holed) coin, so 2).
Just call me Bram

No new swaps for the moment, still too many half-ongoing swaps to clean up!
The right answer is 1): obverse and reserve picture is not from the same coin.

I was pretty sure it was a picture of a damaged coin, for two reasons:
- I only know non damaged coins with a hole in the center, not at the top.
- Who would struck a coin with a hole through the lettering in stead of in between the lettering, that's not logical at all.

But to be sure I took my Funck and guess what. This coin indeed exists with and without a hole at the top. This also explains the pictures with and without a whole.
By the way, also the 10 pfennig exists with and without a hole:

the right answer is 4): the reverse picture is photoshopped to "fix the damage" :)

I checked the modifications history and someone cropped both pictures, and could only photoshop the reverse.
Referee can check the history and re upload the old holed pic again
I msged him already about this
Catalog Master Referee & Referee for UAE
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Amer Salmeh
Απόσπασμα: "AmerSalmeh"​the right answer is 4): the reverse picture is photoshopped to "fix the damage" :)

​​Referee can check the history and re upload the old holed pic again
​I msged him already about this

​Hahaha, photoshopped. I didn't see that coming.

But it is indeed a good idea to restore the original picture because the hole is no damage.
Did you also told the referee to add a new year line for the non holed coin? He can use the information (mintage, Funck reference number, diameter, ....) on my picture.
I referred him here so he can see all comments :)
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Amer Salmeh
Απόσπασμα: "Essor Prof"​- Who would struck a coin with a hole through the lettering in stead of in between the lettering, that's not logical at all.

​That leaves this question unanswered ... I'd be very interested in the who/why. Was it already done at the "mint" (if such thing existed with Notgeld)? Or did the townmayor take out his drill for some PMD?
Just call me Bram

No new swaps for the moment, still too many half-ongoing swaps to clean up!
I can see exact mintage numbers for each type with/without a hole, so it looks like it has been done at the production process on purpose? just guessing
Catalog Master Referee & Referee for UAE
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Amer Salmeh
It would be very interesting to find out why they were holed and if they were actually done at the mint because at first glance it looks as if it has been done privately, post-production?
Just because you can't see it ... doesn't mean it isn't there - Anon.

Former coin and banknote catalogue referee.
i replaced the picture
and added a line for the non holed variant

thank you
thomas
Απόσπασμα: "BramVB"
Απόσπασμα: "Essor Prof"​- Who would struck a coin with a hole through the lettering in stead of in between the lettering, that's not logical at all.

​​That leaves this question unanswered ... I'd be very interested in the who/why. Was it already done at the "mint" (if such thing existed with Notgeld)? Or did the townmayor take out his drill for some PMD?

​Funck is the leading catalogue concerning German Notgeld and they even give mintage numbers for those holed coins so I guess the holes are made at the Mint.
I still don't understand why, and certainly not why these holes often are through the lettering, but it seems coins with holes are not uncommon with German Notgeld. And in strange places (at the top, at the bottom, in the top half) and strange shapes (triangular). Here are some examples of these strange places and shapes: coins from Abensberg, Breisach, Miesbach, Mosbach, Kelsheim....









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