Nepal 2 Rupees 1994-2000

https://en.numista.com/catalogue/pieces7289.html

In the numista catalog it's one piece (brass plated steel). In the german catalog (that usually has less mistakes) it is split up in:
1994-1995 / 2051-2052: brass plated steel (magnetic)
1996-2000 / 2053-2057: Aluminium-bronze (not magnetic)

Who has this coin and can try, which ones are magnetic and which ones are not?

thanks!

2051-2052 magnetic
2057 not magnetic

That's all I have in my collection

Ole

Thank you very much!
In my opinion this must be split up even if the KM shows this as one coin with different type.

but they are split up as they are in the SCWC!

2051-2052 : km1074.1
2053-2057 : km1074.2

Ole

You are right, numista lists the coin as a different type of the same coin just like KM but I think as the material is completely different we should give each type an own page. Often you can see pages for a magnetic or a not magnetic coin with the same design. And nobody would combine a silver coin and a copper-nickel coin into one page. To have consistancy I think we should do the same with this coin even if Krause does it his own way.
en example:
Albania 1 Lek magnetic has this page: https://en.numista.com/catalogue/pieces26509.html
Albania 1 Lek not magnetic (same design): https://en.numista.com/catalogue/pieces6530.html

KM commonly (but not always) used rules!

When a slight motive change happens on a coin, the rule is to use the "point" and then a number.

When the alloy changes, then the original used km# is used followed by a letter.

Nowadays different mint marks are not enough to induce different km#, in the past that was different, see the French centime coins from the empire up to modern days. As you might have noticed, this was NOT used for the German coins.

The Albanian 1 lek coin is thus 100% correct, it got the "75a" to indicate a different alloy from the "75".

Ole

In the case of 2 Rupees the alloy changed, so it should be 1074 and 1074a not 1074.1 and 1074.2 as it is now. And we should give the Aluminium-bronze coin an own page on numista, don't we?

You are right, but as I said, those general rules are NOT always followed, unfortunately

If KM doesn't follow his own rules we don't need to make the same mistake, we can do it better. I created a new page for the Aluminium-bronze coin:
https://en.numista.com/catalogue/pieces72142.html
could you please add pictures, alignment, diameter, weight and so on when the coin is published?

The problem is only, that if you differ from the km# defined by KM in the SCWC, then the numista users can not find the proper links between numista and SCWC.

I think numista is not a digital version of KM, it's an own catalog even if it refers much to KM. I admit that KM is the most used catalog for the majority of the users but for some countries and periods it is definitely not the standart literature. That's why we shouldn't always stick to KM.
In my opinion it's no problem to find the links between numista and KM, as every coin page shows the KM#.

PS: in the numista guidelines https://en.numista.com/catalogue/contributions/instructions.php it says:
"A page describes a coin type. It may group several variations whenever a small design detail varies and the KM numbers have the same main part, like KM#3.1 and KM#3.2. On the other hand, if the coin uses a different metal, create another page, like KM#3a and KM#3b."

Yeah, but Numista doesn't follow that all the time either, so the rules are used like those defined by KM. I don't know how Gerhard Schoen manages his numbers, but he works hand in hand with Krause (dixit George Cuhaj, former editor at KM). I have the feeling that Gerhard is more serious, though!

Ole

Yes, Schön manages it the same way. Of course in his catalog there are also some mistakes and he uses different numbers because the sorting is different (in my opinion better) than KM. In the Schön catalog it's not sorted by denomination but by year, so the coin series from the same years are together.

Matter of taste, I prefer the SCWC way, since that's how I've organized my collection

Ole

Interesting that this thread should pop up the same day one of my co-workers, who is from Nepal, gave me 2066 (2009) 1 and 2 rupee pieces. She also mentioned that it was pretty uncommon to carry coins and that most people only used banknotes.

Thank you for sharing the Nepal 2 Rupees 1994-2000