We had a coin possibly damaged by a can opener on this site before. Another type of machine —or another type of can opener— may have caused this peeling of the copper coating towards the inside. Here are close-ups:
This is PMD — it wasn't done at the Mint
I honestly don't think there's much of a comparison between the two. The copper plating on a penny is so thin (~0.051 mm) that if it were peeled away somehow the coin design/lettering would still be there. Whatever this is, it's above the surface.
I honestly don't think there's much of a comparison between the two. The copper plating on a penny is so thin (~0.051 mm) that if it were peeled away somehow the coin design/lettering would still be there. Whatever this is, it's above the surface.
But we do agree, definitely post-mint.
Have you looked at it on a big screen? Perhaps “peeling” was my wrong choice of word, but the metal was pushed from the edge towards the field, including some zinc. The edge is kind of folded over the field. Perhaps the coin was in a washing machine, but for a single wash or two (??). Here is how it looks after a few years. Just a suggestion of a possible type of machine that could cause such damage.
I really don't think this is pmd and I don't know how or why someone would put a coin in a can opener and the extra material on the side has caused the coin to be thicker than a normal penny it weighs 10 cents less than a penny I don't know how a penny could get damaged like this at the mint but I also don't know how somebody could damage a penny like this it's the same size in diameter to a penny it's just thicker and I don't know where somebody's coming up with aluminum foil was put around the edge of the penny but that's not aluminum foil that's actually the penny
If that was aluminum foil around the penny you'd be able to tell because it wouldn't be sticking to the penny. I definitely believe this is a mint error but I don't know how and I don't know how someone can do this to a penny if it is still the same size as a penny in diameter just fatter.
Isn't this kind of trapezoid edge found on coins that were trapped in between the drum and wall of a washing machine or a dryer or something similarly rotating?
Would explain why the content was squeezed out of some cracks at the rim.
Isn't this kind of trapezoid edge found on coins that were trapped in between the drum and wall of a washing machine or a dryer or something similarly rotating?
Would explain why the content was squeezed out of some cracks at the rim.
Yes — I made the same point above. Perhaps it just didn't spend a long time in the washing or some other spinning/rotating machine.
But I think we agree it's definitely PMD — no doubt about it. A pair of die cannot produce this, and there is no step after striking such as adding edge lettering.
We had a coin possibly damaged by a can opener on this site before. Another type of machine —or another type of can opener— may have caused this peeling of the copper coating towards the inside. Here are close-ups:
This is PMD — it wasn't done at the Mint
I honestly don't think there's much of a comparison between the two. The copper plating on a penny is so thin (~0.051 mm) that if it were peeled away somehow the coin design/lettering would still be there. Whatever this is, it's above the surface.
But we do agree, definitely post-mint.
I'm still sceptical, but that does seem to answer this question, so many thanks for all the contributions so far. Hopefully, shannonmcd will appreciate the comments too.
I've seen this error now a number of times. Cud along the left string of the harp - sometimes with so much additional metal it looks a bit like an extra string. Anyone else seen this?
And what do you think happened with yours? If it went thru the washing machine at all or stuck in the drum of a washing machine then why is it just worn on the edge and not the front or back and why is the depth so deep on the back and why would it still be the exact same size as a penny. It the fold over edge came from the sides then how is it the same size of a penny?
Mine measures 19.09 mm (same as a penny). I know what happened to mine. I made it in my basement an hour ago. I glued it to a bolt, put it in a drill motor and spun it against a surface to simulate something like the type of damage you get when a coin is stuck inside a rotating drum like a dryer or washing machine. Not that that exactly explains yours but it seem conceivable.
This is what can happen if a coin gets stuck inside a washing machine for a long time.
Seriously, please weigh your coins. If they're even the slightest bit heavier than the specified weight that will put a whole new dimension on the discussion.
Mine measures 19.09 mm (same as a penny). I know what happened to mine. I made it in my basement an hour ago. I glued it to a bolt, put it in a drill motor and spun it against a surface to simulate something like the type of damage you get when a coin is stuck inside a rotating drum like a dryer or washing machine. Not that that exactly explains yours but it seem conceivable.
This is what can happen if a coin gets stuck inside a washing machine for a long time.
Our washing machine wasn’t working, so we looked at the drainage pipe, and found tons of gunk that was blocking it, along with these two:
Mine measures 19.09 mm (same as a penny). I know what happened to mine. I made it in my basement an hour ago. I glued it to a bolt, put it in a drill motor and spun it against a surface to simulate something like the type of damage you get when a coin is stuck inside a rotating drum like a dryer or washing machine. Not that that exactly explains yours but it seem conceivable.
This is what can happen if a coin gets stuck inside a washing machine for a long time.
Our washing machine wasn’t working, so we looked at the drainage pipe, and found tons of gunk that was blocking it, along with these two:
they weigh 1.8 grams and 2.2 grams respectively.
Look like mint errors to me. How much do you think they're worth?
Mine measures 19.09 mm (same as a penny). I know what happened to mine. I made it in my basement an hour ago. I glued it to a bolt, put it in a drill motor and spun it against a surface to simulate something like the type of damage you get when a coin is stuck inside a rotating drum like a dryer or washing machine. Not that that exactly explains yours but it seem conceivable.
This is what can happen if a coin gets stuck inside a washing machine for a long time.
Our washing machine wasn’t working, so we looked at the drainage pipe, and found tons of gunk that was blocking it, along with these two:
they weigh 1.8 grams and 2.2 grams respectively.
Look like mint errors to me. How much do you think they're worth?
Mine measures 19.09 mm (same as a penny). I know what happened to mine. I made it in my basement an hour ago. I glued it to a bolt, put it in a drill motor and spun it against a surface to simulate something like the type of damage you get when a coin is stuck inside a rotating drum like a dryer or washing machine. Not that that exactly explains yours but it seem conceivable.
This is what can happen if a coin gets stuck inside a washing machine for a long time.
Our washing machine wasn’t working, so we looked at the drainage pipe, and found tons of gunk that was blocking it, along with these two:
they weigh 1.8 grams and 2.2 grams respectively.
Look like mint errors to me. How much do you think they're worth?
Found these in a bag of coins from Yvon, who I met up with near Utrecht over the Xmas holidays. Still working my way through the pile of low value denomination Euro coins he so generously gave me.
It appears that the Belgian King bought himself a beret in 2007 (large cud on Monarch's head). 😀
And, that the Dutch Queen insisted on wearing her tiara everywhere (small cuds on top of Monarch's head). Unusual to find so many with such a similar error - I must have around 20 of these now, all from either 1999 or 2000. 😀
I believe the extra leaf's on the error are die cracks.
Definitely not from a die crack. The CPG (Vol. 2) states: "Apparently, a tool with a rounded edge was impressed into the working dies to create images not intended for the original design."
Reference: "Cherrypickers Guide To Rare Die Varieties of US Coins", Vol 2., 6th Edition, page 245.
I have this mis-strike 2013 Gibraltar 20p - I'm looking to swap it and send it to a new home, as it's not something I collect, would anyone be interested in it?
findland 2 euro coin 2003 (8.8m minted). Above the mint mark "M" there is an extra blob of metal on a leave?
The last one is a Greek 2 euro coin from 2002 (75M minted). The error is on the 2 euro/map side, where some of the silver metal was stuck in the center.
Nice planetary system you found on that penny, Pluto2181930! When there is a nice story of how you found it, then I invite you to share it on my thread ‘Coin collecting carrot? Share your strangest/most mysterious coin story.’
Below two Dutch 2 Euro coins (year 2000) from the same coin roll with the same looking blob on the 2, indicating it is caused by a pothole in the die:
One coin shows the edge text ‘MET’ in ‘GOD ZIJ MET ONS’ upside down, the other shows ‘ONS’ regularly (left image below). When looking at the blob from the proper angle, then it looks like a bird face (right image below).
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I still don't understand why fellow collectors here in Europa don't collect doubled die varieties. But that's good for my collection.. I found this nice example in a 12Kg leftover lot from my favorite seller..
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come across this 1688 Maundy 1 penny error coin, is it authentic, I heard error coins for Maundy coins are virtually unheard of…. Shall I get slabbed???
Oh — a brockage error. If you intend on selling it, slabbing would increase the confidence of potential buyers and, therefore, increase the value.
If you want to keep it in your collection, it's really up to you. I personally dislike slabs and have actually removed coins from a few of them. But if I wanted to sell something similar to your error, I would definitely have it sabbed first by a reputable third-party grader.
Thanks for the kind welcome and advice. Yes need it looked at by ngc, I live in London so will take this and a few others ( non error)… I have a cupro nickel Victoria Penny too…
Hello good peoples…I'm new here but wanted to share my error coin…it's a 2023 P Jovita Idar Quarter Minted in Philadelphia with the inscription "IN COD WE TRUST". This 25-cent coin is composed of nickel, copper, and zinc with a fineness of 0.625.
Guess I'm looking for confirmation and possible value…any help is appreciated…thanks in advance :)
Hello good peoples…I'm new here but wanted to share my error coin…it's a 2023 P Jovita Idar Quarter Minted in Philadelphia with the inscription "IN COD WE TRUST". This 25-cent coin is composed of nickel, copper, and zinc with a fineness of 0.625.
Guess I'm looking for confirmation and possible value…any help is appreciated…thanks in advance :)
Hi PoPss, welcome to Numista! Looks like the section of the ‘G’ distinguishing it from a ‘C’ got clogged a little on the die (a ‘negative’ for producing the coin). With close inspection it still looks like a ‘G’ though. That is a common type of die clogging by little waste particles due to intensive use of the die, that generally doesn't add value to the coin. In this case it might add some value for collectors who may find the illusion of change of meaning amusing, yet it would surprise me when a serious error-coins collector would be willing to pay more than say $2 + postage. The current eBay $200 or even much higher ‘In Cod We Trust’ offers with ‘G’-s still clearly looking like ‘G’-s for this type of coin are aiming to rip off gullible people with too much cash in their pockets.
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Hello good peoples…I'm new here but wanted to share my error coin…it's a 2023 P Jovita Idar Quarter Minted in Philadelphia with the inscription "IN COD WE TRUST". This 25-cent coin is composed of nickel, copper, and zinc with a fineness of 0.625.
Welcome to Numista!
US Washington quarters have over the years used different styles of lettering. Sometimes the G looks like a G and sometimes more like a C. They never had the horizontal bar we usually see on typed or printed G's. The G in the American Women quarters looks like a C. It's very common to to get a little filling of the die to make the G look closer to a C. And there is no zinc in the composition. It's a Cu-Ni clad copper center coin.
2023 P Jovita Idar Quarter Minted in Philadelphia with the inscription "IN COD WE TRUST". This 25-cent coin is composed of nickel, copper, and zinc with a fineness of 0.625.
AI generated crap, sandwiched between two honest and genuine sentences from the OP, I am glad you left out the AI generated ridiculous value and sought other opinions. Just out of interest what did AI say it was worth?
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Seems to me there are so many “rare” IN COD WE TRUST quarters being offered for sale that the logical conclusion would be they are not at all rare. This one about sums up the sold “rare” error IN COD WE TRUST coins:
Seems to me there are so many “rare” IN COD WE TRUST quarters being offered for sale that the logical conclusion would be they are not at all rare. This one about sums up the sold “rare” error IN COD WE TRUST coins:
I've been struggling to figure out this coin for a while. Got it in change. 2006 P Nevada quarter with grease. I've used a microscope and the material on the reverse has the design struck onto it (forgive my attempt at correct terminology). It it the goldish color. It is hard and when I tap it with other metal, it sounds like metal, but I'm not expert obviously. I thought it might be copper, or the Sacagawea dollar metal, but I'm now wondering if it is just a mix of grease and other stuff that was struck with coin, but hardened? It almost looks to me like it is oxidizing, so maybe a mixture including metal dust? There is grease in other places on the coin, but visibly darker and soft. Any help with what it might be and/or how to test without paying for it would be much appreciated!!
How do you know it was on the planchet before it was struck? Looks to me like it's a transparent glob of something that found its way on the coin after it went into circulation.
How do you know it was on the planchet before it was struck? Looks to me like it's a transparent glob of something that found its way on the coin after it went into circulation.
Thank you! I'm excited that this site is here and esecially the forum.
Thank you for looking at the coin for me! I will try to get a different angle with the microscope, but it looked to me like the glob had the shape of the design on the coin, like it was struck through. But it could just be my eyes. When I first saw it I did not imagine at all it could be transparent. But just today I saw that it looks like the silver color underneath is shining through. That made me eager for an experienced opinion. Also, now I think it might just be grease, but originally I was convinced the blob was rusting/oxidizing/developing patina. I'll see if I can get a picture of the top of the glob from the side to see if it is struck through with the design or not.
How do you know it was on the planchet before it was struck? Looks to me like it's a transparent glob of something that found its way on the coin after it went into circulation.
Thank you! I'm excited that this site is here and esecially the forum.
Thank you for looking at the coin for me! I will try to get a different angle with the microscope, but it looked to me like the glob had the shape of the design on the coin, like it was struck through. But it could just be my eyes. When I first saw it I did not imagine at all it could be transparent. But just today I saw that it looks like the silver color underneath is shining through. That made me eager for an experienced opinion. Also, now I think it might just be grease, but originally I was convinced the blob was rusting/oxidizing/developing patina. I'll see if I can get a picture of the top of the glob from the side to see if it is struck through with the design or not.
Ok, so I looked under the microscope again and it seemed to me that the glob has the design struck through it. I used the post of an earring, for lack of a better non pointy tool, to drag across the top of the blob. It definitely has the ridges in the design. The top of the blob is not flat simply on top after minting.
I also used a tacky eraser, made it flat and pressed it against the coin. The design did come through over the blob. I stupidly also put hot wax on it and when cool I lifted it off and again I found the impression of the design faintly where the blob is.
Under the microscope it also looks like there might be a hole out of which the blob might have leaked, but again I don't know how….
How do you know it was on the planchet before it was struck? Looks to me like it's a transparent glob of something that found its way on the coin after it went into circulation.
Thank you! I'm excited that this site is here and esecially the forum.
Thank you for looking at the coin for me! I will try to get a different angle with the microscope, but it looked to me like the glob had the shape of the design on the coin, like it was struck through. But it could just be my eyes. When I first saw it I did not imagine at all it could be transparent. But just today I saw that it looks like the silver color underneath is shining through. That made me eager for an experienced opinion. Also, now I think it might just be grease, but originally I was convinced the blob was rusting/oxidizing/developing patina. I'll see if I can get a picture of the top of the glob from the side to see if it is struck through with the design or not.
Ok, so I looked under the microscope again and it seemed to me that the glob has the design struck through it. I used the post of an earring, for lack of a better non pointy tool, to drag across the top of the blob. It definitely has the ridges in the design. The top of the blob is not flat simply on top after minting.
I also used a tacky eraser, made it flat and pressed it against the coin. The design did come through over the blob. I stupidly also put hot wax on it and when cool I lifted it off and again I found the impression of the design faintly where the blob is.
Under the microscope it also looks like there might be a hole out of which the blob might have leaked, but again I don't know how….
Help?
Soak the coin for sometime in aceton, if it is a real error it will not do any harm, if the ‘blob’ is grease (which I do not belief) or plastic it will come off after some time and that means your coin was not an error, so you can spend it…:)
Hello good peoples…I'm new here but wanted to share my error coin…it's a 2023 P Jovita Idar Quarter Minted in Philadelphia with the inscription “IN COD WE TRUST”
Hello good peoples…I'm new here but wanted to share my error coin…it's a 2023 P Jovita Idar Quarter Minted in Philadelphia with the inscription “IN COD WE TRUST”
Hello good peoples…I'm new here but wanted to share my error coin…it's a 2023 P Jovita Idar Quarter Minted in Philadelphia with the inscription “IN COD WE TRUST”
Hello good peoples…I'm new here but wanted to share my error coin…it's a 2023 P Jovita Idar Quarter Minted in Philadelphia with the inscription “IN COD WE TRUST”
Hello good peoples…I'm new here but wanted to share my error coin…it's a 2023 P Jovita Idar Quarter Minted in Philadelphia with the inscription “IN COD WE TRUST”
Are we sure cod is trustworthy?? 😂
Obviously God displayed a great sense of humor by inspiring the designer to use a font in which the C and G are nearly indistinguishable, as well as by inspiring some people to aim to sell these coins for preposterous prices.
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Hello good peoples…I'm new here but wanted to share my error coin…it's a 2023 P Jovita Idar Quarter Minted in Philadelphia with the inscription “IN COD WE TRUST”
Hello good peoples…I'm new here but wanted to share my error coin…it's a 2023 P Jovita Idar Quarter Minted in Philadelphia with the inscription “IN COD WE TRUST”
Hello good peoples…I'm new here but wanted to share my error coin…it's a 2023 P Jovita Idar Quarter Minted in Philadelphia with the inscription “IN COD WE TRUST”
Hello good peoples…I'm new here but wanted to share my error coin…it's a 2023 P Jovita Idar Quarter Minted in Philadelphia with the inscription “IN COD WE TRUST”
Hello good peoples…I'm new here but wanted to share my error coin…it's a 2023 P Jovita Idar Quarter Minted in Philadelphia with the inscription “IN COD WE TRUST”
Quite a thick straight raised line from the left oak leaf to the zero. Not sure what's caused this, but it appears to be too big and regular to be a die crack.
Quite a thick straight raised line from the left oak leaf to the zero. Not sure what's caused this, but it appears to be too big and regular to be a die crack.
It looks like your coin has surplus metal on the then ‘inverted scratch’, which to me it looks like a nice ‘scratched die' error, as I would call it. Another example of a ‘scratched die’ error with surplus metal in the form of a scratch, India 25 Paise 1996 Hyderabad:
A die crack typically runs irregular indeed, while either edge to edge (possibly on multiple places) or somewhat circular. My typical cracked die coins, a Netherlands 1995 5 cents coin and a Sudan 2006 10 piastres coin:
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Here my 17 88 City of Utrecht duit and my 1792 City of Trecht duit. I'm not 100% convinced it is not post mint damage, but the change of meaning sure is nice, as ‘trecht’ is the old Dutch word for ‘place where a river one can be crossed, either by regular ferry or by wading through’, the word the name of the city is based on. This word also occurs in Maastricht as well as (altered to drecht) in Dordrecht.
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I can't see how this could be wear on just the two middle uprights of the crown, especially as the centre and outer uprights have very little wear and there is little other substantial wear on the rest of the reverse side. Any suggestions as to why?
The error around the date is so common (I've now seen 6 or 7 examples that are almost identicle) that I was beginning to suspect that there were no normal 1976 coins produced. Until I recently got this…
My wife found this in change, and I honestly can't make head nor tails of it. I think likely delamination, but both sides? And what's with the weird shapes?
Added yesterday a great double struck ½ Duit 1808 from the Netherlands East Indies to my collection.
Very cool almost 90 degrees rotation double strike! These coins are supposed to have medal allignment, which strike has (about) the correct allignment compared to the other side, the ‘main’ strike or the ‘faint’ strike? (probably the ‘main’ strike, just nice to be sure)
Below a Groningen and Ommelanden Duit with two errors that I added to my collection in the beginning of this year. The coin has a ‘reversed side double strike' (I don't know the proper term) which is likely caused by die damage caused by striking without a planchet, as well as a planchet error where the curve of the missing section matches the curve of the circumference of the coin itself (as demonstrated in the down right corner of the first image).
The third image shows the error on the obverse (left) as compared to the matching section of the reverse (right).
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Very cool almost 90 degrees rotation double strike! These coins are supposed to have medal allignment, which strike has (about) the correct allignment compared to the other side, the ‘main’ strike or the ‘faint’ strike? (probably the ‘main’ strike, just nice to be sure)
The last most clear strike.. 😇
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