5 Francs 2000 Parisii Stater magnetic or non magnetic

Does anybidy knows about France 5 francs 2000 commemorative coins are they magnetic or non magnetic?

Thnx

N#17715

Numista says non-magnetic

SCWC says magnetic

Same with:

N#19264

N#17718

N#17719

N#17720

N#17724

N#17725

N#17726

N#17727

N#17728

All of these started out in Numista as either Nickel or Copper-Nickel plated Nickel but were then changed to just Copper-Nickel (or Aluminum Bronze for one of them). 

Example N#17719

2012 - Nickel

2022 - Copper-Aluminum

Today - Aluminum bronze

And the best is the French version - Bronze-aluminium (Cuivre 750‰ et Nickel 250‰, plaqué nickel) which makes absolutely no sense at all.

rsirian1

 

All of these started out in Numista as …. or Copper-Nickel plated Nickel

Are you sure it wasn't Nickel plated Copper-Nickel instead of the other way around? I don't think I've ever heard about copper-nickel plating.

In Schön all these 5 francs are described as Nickel plated Copper-Nickel.

I am sure. Just one more of the crazy things going on with these coins.

But I agree with you. It's a strange composition but there are others in the catalogue, right or wrong.  Maybe they meant clad, not plated or as you suggest nickel plated copper-nickel.

https://en.numista.com/catalogue/index.php?r=%22copper-nickel+plated+nickel%22&st=1-2-3&cat=y&im1=&im2=&ru=&ie=&no=&v=&cu=&a=&dg=&i=&b=&m=&f=&t=&t2=&w=&mt=&u=&c=&wi=&sw=

rsirian1

 

But I agree with you. It's a strange composition but there are others in the catalogue, right or wrong. 

 I've checked the Austrian coins in Schön and the 10 schilling and the bimetallic 50 schillings are indeed all Copper-Nickel plated Nickel there too.

You can't plate an alloy, at least not with techniques that are usually used in coin manufacturing.

Idolenz

You can't plate an alloy, at least not with techniques that are usually used in coin manufacturing.

That's why I suggested maybe they really mean “clad” not plated.

According to CoA it should be Ni plated CuNi

N#19264

I think commemoratives were made of the same alloy. But I'll check later if any of those have been issued in some kind of packaging. Because the packaging should list the alloy

However, regarding the very first coin (Parisii stater):

After a quick search I found the louis d'or set on the internet. Since it is from the same series, it is likely the composition will be the same.

https://www.ebay.ca/itm/382753197894

CoA here claims: Cu-Ni plaque Ni, so I suppose it is Cu-Ni clad Ni, because as mentioned earlier, an alloy cannot be plated

Ma9nWaRr10

 

Cu-Ni plaque Ni, so I suppose it is Cu-Ni clad Ni, because as mentioned earlier, an alloy cannot be plated

Translation for Cu-Ni plaqué Ni = Nickel-plated copper-nickel, just as Schön says.

And since Ma9nWaRr10 showed us a COA from the Monnaie de Paris, I think it's finally time to rectify the composition for once and for all.

Essor Prof

Ma9nWaRr10

 

Cu-Ni plaque Ni, so I suppose it is Cu-Ni clad Ni, because as mentioned earlier, an alloy cannot be plated

Translation for Cu-Ni plaqué Ni = Nickel-plated copper-nickel, just as Schön says.

And since Ma9nWaRr10 showed us a COA from the Monnaie de Paris, I think it's finally time to rectify the composition for once and for all.

 

I agree. Just make sure the French page is coordinated also or else we'll still have things like this