I have found a 1943 French 50 centimes ( Vichy ) coin that has the reverse in the same alignment as the obverse, and not 180 degree Out.
has anyone ever heard of this minting error? I am going to send it to NGC for mint error attribution. Please let me know if anyone has heard of this type of error. Thank you
It is what it is, I will repost after sending it to NGC for error attribution. I have never seen one like this before, but I am a blind senior and use adaptive technology to enhance images. I did once find a 1961 proof Franklin Half PF68 with the rare double die on reverse, it was written up in CONECA and sold by Stacks & Bowers at the world fair of coins rarely auction in 2020. This is not that type of error, but even a blind squirrel finds an acorn every now and then. Will follow up.
Yes, .77 grams. I will be sending it in toNGC for new attribution and grading. I have three world coins being graded graded now, 120 work days in economy. I think I will spring for the Express walk through. I will update.
Good question, just got the invoice and had asked for new attribution. I have worked with NGC for years, but they missed it. Waiting for their response to my request. It is what it is and the encapsulation shows it clearly. Will update when I get their response. Good question though.
I did specifically write it clearly on invoice, called before submission to ma sure that they do attributions. Called when the gave notice that they received the item, to call if there were any questions. There answer was that the error team said that there was only a minor minting error, when I explained that a 280 degree rotational error was not minor, the are reviewing my request.
Haha minor minting error, only the difference between coin alignment and medal alignment - I would say that’s pretty major error, especially as it is pretty much 180 degrees meaning someone at the mint put one of the dies on upside down! As the chances of a die slipping 180 degrees are slim to none.
Also I’ve never seen any rotation error on these, and I’ve seen a good 500 of them, all perfectly coin aligned … I know I was sceptical at first 🤔
Plus they didn’t mention if it was km14.1 or 14.2 (heavy or light type)! I would be overly annoyed at NGC as it just seems laziness has infected their business model.
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You know your centimes, there were two types that year, light and heavy .7 & .8 grams. I caught that also, but want them to pay for the shipping to resend and put the attribution on the kabel. If I can get that done, I will request for the proper KM# to appear on label also. I am a blind senior living in upstate NY. In 2020 I purchased a 1961 of68 Franklin half. When I used my adaptive program, I noticed a doubling on the E Puleaves Umun. that was my first coin I sent in for variety check, it turned out to be the second one found in the highest grade. It was originally certified by NGC. It was written up in Conceca, and I became good friends with Bill Fivas the author of the CherryPickers guide. I am consulting with on this coin also. Goes to show even a blind squirrel finds an action every now and then. Thank you for you comments.
Oh yeah, I have done plenty of searching through old French coins, here in Europe there is an abundance of them passed from one treasure hunter to the next.. it is almost like the French decided not to redeem them for new currency when they became demonetised and thus became the curse of every coin collectors nightmares when buying a new mixed lot of coins.
But I still search them all, because unlike other countries there are some anomalies that appear at first sight to be run-of-the-mill standard old French coins, the odd single year coin with a star or a dash or some dots which don’t appear on the other coins of the same design makes all the difference. Then there are the odd mint mark B or C to look out for and the odd coin made of a different metal with no design changes, all good fun finding them in the mountain of rubbish 👍 I just hope I haven’t overlooked a 180 degree rotation error in my time 😂
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It is the Hobby of Kings. let me know if you are in France. There might not be a place for this coin here ANA, but the French counterpart might want to recognize it. I am more interested in finding a home for this where it will be appreciated. Once I get NGC to complete the attribution.
Plus they didn’t mention if it was km14.1 or 14.2 (heavy or light type)! I would be overly annoyed at NGC as it just seems laziness has infected their business model.
NGC considers it a KM# 914.4 Thin flan, no mint mark.
Cette pièce de 50 centimes 1943 est bien fautée et connue, vous pouvez la trouver sur internet en indiquant “frappe médaille” ↑↑ (axe 12h). L'originale légère et même la version dite lourde sont en “frappe monnaie” ↑↓ (axe 6h).
- Répertoriée Chort sous la référence EM331 exemple
NGC is going to relabel this coin as a french Frappe Medaille 50 centimes and weight it for the KM # identifacion. I have found another listing for this type calling it a R2 rariety. Hoping to find a good home where it will be recognized and appreciated. will update with new photos from NGC.
