69,70 & 71 5 Groshen [επιλυμένο]

Is there a line missing for a non proof in those years ? I have these and they certainly dont look proof.

 This page below agrees with our page 

https://www.ngccoin.com/price-guide/world/austria-5-groschen-km-2875-1948-1994-cuid-1044467-duid-1218237 

These proof coins probably found their way into circulation or have been jumbled up in coin lots passing between collectors and dealers and so on. As they are zink they are prone to corrosion and easily damaged by other coins in the lot.

I do have the feeling these coins were also released for circulation, especially seing the number offered for swap here. Compare the amounts to 1981 and 1983 that each had about 500.000 issued for circulation.

I think mintage figures are incomplete (for sure for 1970) … just judging by the amounts registered here.

@MicheleTN do you really have 11 of those 1970 coins for swap? any idea of their origin?

HG @BramVB 
I bought these with many other worlds in a lot. They are all from 1970. Oxidized and not cleaned.

BramVB

I do have the feeling these coins were also released for circulation, especially seing the number offered for swap here. Compare the amounts to 1981 and 1983 that each had about 500.000 issued for circulation.

 

I think mintage figures are incomplete (for sure for 1970) … just judging by the amounts registered here.

 

@MicheleTN do you really have 11 of those 1970 coins for swap? any idea of their origin?

Hi @BramVB 
I bought these with many other worlds in a lot. They are all from 1970. Oxidized and not cleaned.

@Dieter83 

any local information available?

I'm now pretty convinced that 1970 coins were also released for circulation, 1969 and 1971 probably too …

There are too many available that are not in a proof set to be just taken out from sets.

Also very interesting is that the mintage numbers for the other proof coins for those years don't seem to correspond … as if they were releasing loose proof coins.

https://en.numista.com/catalogue/index.php?r=1970&st=1&cat=y&im1=&im2=&ru=149&ie=&ca=3&no=&v=&a=&dg=&i=&b=&m=&f=&t=&t2=&w=&mt=&u=&g=&c=&wi=&sw=

BramVB

@Dieter83 

any local information available?

 

I'm now pretty convinced that 1970 coins were also released for circulation, 1969 and 1971 probably too …

There are too many available that are not in a proof set to be just taken out from sets.

 

Also very interesting is that the mintage numbers for the other proof coins for those years don't seem to correspond … as if they were releasing loose proof coins.

https://en.numista.com/catalogue/index.php?r=1970&st=1&cat=y&im1=&im2=&ru=149&ie=&ca=3&no=&v=&a=&dg=&i=&b=&m=&f=&t=&t2=&w=&mt=&u=&g=&c=&wi=&sw=

 

Krause, too, and you can see it on the site here, indicates the same thing.
https://www.ngccoin.com/price-guide/world/austria-5-groschen-km-2875-1948-1994-cuid-1044467-duid-1216133


I can't say anything else

BramVB

@Dieter83 

any local information available?

 

I'm now pretty convinced that 1970 coins were also released for circulation, 1969 and 1971 probably too …

There are too many available that are not in a proof set to be just taken out from sets.

 

Also very interesting is that the mintage numbers for the other proof coins for those years don't seem to correspond … as if they were releasing loose proof coins.

https://en.numista.com/catalogue/index.php?r=1970&st=1&cat=y&im1=&im2=&ru=149&ie=&ca=3&no=&v=&a=&dg=&i=&b=&m=&f=&t=&t2=&w=&mt=&u=&g=&c=&wi=&sw=

 

@BramVB  I was also checking my catalog, but it mentions the same information published in Numista and NGC Coin.

I interpret the mintage figures from 1969 to 1971 are exactly but with years 1970-71, I have the doubt if these 144,000 coins minted were all Proof due to in other years for instance when Proof coins were minted, the mintage were much lower, from 15,000 to 65,000 to be honest.

Hi @MicheleTN thanks for your feedback. I was looking your coins picture and there's a coin from 1970 that still looks OK. Would it be possible to take a picture of the obverse and reverse and upload it as an example on our 5 Groschen's page?

Hi@chuxway If you have more examples of coins from these years, it would be helpful upload too to compare it too

The direct link of “Register a new example” is:

https://en.numista.com/catalogue/examples/new.php?type=744

Thanks in advance

Dieter83

BramVB

@Dieter83 

any local information available?

 

I'm now pretty convinced that 1970 coins were also released for circulation, 1969 and 1971 probably too …

There are too many available that are not in a proof set to be just taken out from sets.

 

Also very interesting is that the mintage numbers for the other proof coins for those years don't seem to correspond … as if they were releasing loose proof coins.

https://en.numista.com/catalogue/index.php?r=1970&st=1&cat=y&im1=&im2=&ru=149&ie=&ca=3&no=&v=&a=&dg=&i=&b=&m=&f=&t=&t2=&w=&mt=&u=&g=&c=&wi=&sw=

 

@BramVB  I was also checking my catalog, but it mentions the same information published in Numista and NGC Coin.

I interpret the mintage figures from 1969 to 1971 are exactly but with years 1970-71, I have the doubt if these 144,000 coins minted were all Proof due to in other years for instance when Proof coins were minted, the mintage were much lower, from 15,000 to 65,000 to be honest.

 

Hi @MicheleTN thanks for your feedback. I was looking your coins picture and there's a coin from 1970 that still looks OK. Would it be possible to take a picture of the obverse and reverse and upload it as an example on our 5 Groschen's page?

 

 

Hi@chuxway If you have more examples of coins from these years, it would be helpful upload too to compare it too

 

The direct link of “Register a new example” is:

https://en.numista.com/catalogue/examples/new.php?type=744

 

Thanks in advance

added ;-)
Unfortunately I have an old cell phone and I can't take better photos

@MicheleTN Thank you very much for uploading the example. I just confirmed it.

I have owned an proof set of the 68 issue they where sold in pvc plastic framed sets with proof ontop and the mint and year 

Hi@Terrazone

Thanks for your feedback

Would you like to add it as an example on our page?

The direct link of “Register a new example” from austrian 5 Groschen is:

https://en.numista.com/catalogue/examples/new.php?type=744

Dieter83

Hi@Terrazone

 

Thanks for your feedback

Would you like to add it as an example on our page?

 

The direct link of “Register a new example” from austrian 5 Groschen is:

https://en.numista.com/catalogue/examples/new.php?type=744

if i can find a photo of it i will (i sold the non silver parts of the proof set at auction in a bigger austrian proof lot 2 years back)

ahh ok perfect