New Country? - Unified African Nations

Hello all,

I just stumbled across this coin and I have no idea what to do with it. Not only is it simultaneously issued by a dozen African nations, it is denominated in each of their currencies (including Guinean Francs, Liberian Dollars, and even the obsolete Equatorial Guinean Peseta). This cataloging mess seems to just be made to mess with websites like Numista.

I am looking forward to seeing what you all think.

Regards,

Theodore

This is an interesting object, but I'm not sure it is a coin.

If you look at the reverse, all of the nations that appear are indicated with completely different currency values.

Benin (1500 Francs CFA) and Senegal (250 Francs CFA) actually use exactly the same currency, so those cannot be face values.

Therefore, I believe this item should be catalogued under exonumia since it is a medal rather than a coin.

andrewdotcoza

This is an interesting object, but I'm not sure it is a coin.

 

If you look at the reverse, all of the nations that appear are indicated with completely different currency values.

 

Benin (1500 Francs CFA) and Senegal (250 Francs CFA) actually use exactly the same currency, so those cannot be face values.

 

Therefore, I believe this item should be catalogued under exonumia since it is a medal rather than a coin.

I agree.

Well, I just sent a message to the central banks of the Gambia, Guinea, Liberia, the Central African States, and the West African States. Let's wait to hear back until we make a decision.

My take is, if this coin is legal tender in only one country, it should be listed there with a note. If it is legal tender in several, then we need a new country to accommodate. 

I just remembered that there is an existing coin in the catalog that is quite similar. This coin is currently listed under the Western African States. This is technically incorrect, as the Republic of the Congo is not in Western Africa.

Other than the web page of the company trying to sell it I can't find any other mention of a United African Countries country.  Exonumia Fantasy currency in my opinion.

I would also say it is a fantasy piece.

Fair enough. What country should I add it under for exonumia?

Also, if any countries get back to me that this coin is legal tender, can we revisit this topic?

I made my own post about this coin before I saw this post. I was also wondering the same thing. There is also a new 2025 version with only 10 countries listed on the obverse instead of 12: 

Not sure if U.A.C. should be added as its own issuing entity or not. Seems pretty controversial. 

Also I agree with Some_nerd that this coin is inaccurately listed as part of western african states as it includes the Congo. 

If you get a response from any of the central banks about it, that would be great.

Also, some other similar coins:

These gold African Pride coins from 2020 and 2022 which have either 2 or 4 nations on the obverse:

Not sure if this is a similar situation or not, if they should be added in coins or exonumia. Thanks everyone!

Those coins seem as legitimate as other examples in the catalog. Idk why the above issues are being held to a different standard.

With more examples of joint issues appearing, an issuer for “Joint African Nations” is becoming necessary.

I agree. Something like that would be good to lump all these African ones with multiple issuers in. Seems like a good idea to me.