Avar tribe in Europe

Good day colleagues, my question concerns the Avar tribe, which ruled Central Europe for 200 years.  Here is their gold coin.  Under what designation, or where is this strain in our connection with coins?  Where can I find Avar coins?

The issuer is named as Avar Khaganate under “Ancient and early medieval polities”:

https://en.numista.com/catalogue/avar_khaganate-1.html

For this coin in particular, it's N#151493 - it was easy since it is the same photo.

But know that our catalog of the Avars contains only 5 coin pages.

Giobruno

The issuer is named as Avar Khaganate under “Ancient and early medieval polities”:

https://en.numista.com/catalogue/avar_khaganate-1.html

 

For this coin in particular, it's N#151493 - it was easy since it is the same photo.

 

But know that our catalog of the Avars contains only 5 coin pages.

Wow, my friend, I had no idea - I was only interested because the Avar tribe harmed and abused my native tribe, the Doudleby, and that is why I left the vicinity of the Danube river in Pannonia and moved to South Bohemia, closer  to the "Saxons and Bavarians", yes, we had to pay them too, but our wives didn't abuse us so much either.  Thank you.

Ivan

PS:

Yes, and I accidentally discovered the coins in connection with researching Pannonia...

MIMAEL

 

Wow, my friend, I had no idea - I was only interested because the Avar tribe harmed and abused my native tribe, the Doudleby, and that is why I left the vicinity of the Danube river in Pannonia and moved to South Bohemia, closer  to the "Saxons and Bavarians", yes, we had to pay them too, but our wives didn't abuse us so much either.  Thank you.

Ivan

PS:

Yes, and I accidentally discovered the coins in connection with researching Pannonia...

 

Wow.

How did you managed to trace your family roots THAT far?

Giobruno

MIMAEL

 

Wow.

 

How did you managed to trace your family roots THAT far?

 

Ahoj

I have documented my father's lineage since the 16th century using records from parish books where the priest recorded the birth and the number of the house in the given village.  Also marriages and funerals, everything is already processed in digital form.  Parish books are stored in the archive.  The clan had its houses, land, and Lesba was among the "free", he was not a subject, but neither was he a noble.  It was a free family, owners of land engaged in agriculture.

He had rights but also obligations, to accompany the king on horseback when he went to the region, and to pay tax - from the revenue.  It was also recorded in the land registers and is linked to the name and descriptive number in the village.  All of them, including my father, were born with a birth certificate number of 15.

I am the first in my line to be born outside the region and the property is still in my father's hands even though he does not live there.  It is in the center of South Bohemia and the family never moved - except my father.

here is a map of the division according to the tribes that make up the Czech nation.

And at the bottom dark green are the Doudleb Tribe.

,,In Pannonia, the Doudlebi living around the Danube suffered heavily under the rule of the Avars, who enslaved their Slavic subjects for a long time.  According to contemporary sources, they forced Slavs to constantly fight in wars against their neighbors and brutally raped women.  The Legend of Ancient Years mentions a case where an Avar warrior, who had lost his horse, had four Doudleb women yoked to him, who then had to pull his chariot like cattle.,,

https://cs.m.wikipedia.org/wiki/Doudlebov%C3%A9

I don't want to show how entries from parish books, or family records, etc. look for privacy, but if you are interested in personal communication, I will show them to you.

Conclusion: It is best to start,, take your saliva,, for a DNA analysis for the company,, My heritage,, and for 100 dollars and something they will do an analysis for you, etc. I will give you a link as you wish.

Again abbreviated in the simple form of SMS - it's me again.

Ivan

What an interesting story.

My family is struggling with ancestry documentation because our surname was changed when our ancestors arrived in Brazil from Italy - the immigration officers wrote the surname as they understood, not as how it should be written.

If we manage to find these family registries in Italy with our original surname we may be able to find all these tracks just as you did.

Have a nice weekend Ivan,

Giovanni

Just an addendum:

I've just saw a news recap that mentions the Avars, the recap is from today but the article is from wednesday:

https://edition.cnn.com/2024/04/24/europe/ancient-dna-avars-empire-scn

Giobruno

What an interesting story.

If we manage to find these family registries in Italy with our original surname we may be able to find all these tracks just as you did.

Have a nice weekend Ivan,

Giovanni

 

Hi, and that's why you should have a saliva DNA analysis done at the American company, MY Heritage, and they will also send you DNA matches with people from all over the world - there is a possibility that based on the names of people, you will have a step in the DNA puzzle.  you will also find the original Name-- (if they are descendants of the family through the male line).  Example: my DNA match says I have 800 relatives in the US, they are 4th and 5th cousins.  It's worth a try, the price for the DNA kit really isn't great - and they have promotions!

Ivan

Giobruno

 

this is the number of relatives that have the same DNA, and then it can be traced by individual.  And here is today's price for DNA analysis (where there will also be ethnic origin, etc.)

.  Ivan