Add Sorau/Żary, city of [επιλυμένο]

Coin example here.

I am going to put this under Silesia since most everything which is nearby is currently placed there in the catalog (most recently Guben, but also Schweidnitz, Krosno, etc).

If there is a consensus that it belongs elsewhere, it can be moved.

Ready for coins to be added.  Could not determine ruling authority.

Its him according to the source I believe: https://fr.numista.com/catalogue/ruler.php?id=5591

The coin should go under Brandeburg Prussia probably?

https://www.kuenker.de/de/archiv/stueck/119814

Compendium

Its him according to the source I believe: https://fr.numista.com/catalogue/ruler.php?id=5591

 

The coin should go under Brandeburg Prussia probably?

https://www.kuenker.de/de/archiv/stueck/119814

What's different to all the other 30-year-war town issuers already approved, some of them even by yourself?

Trooper8

Compendium

Its him according to the source I believe: https://fr.numista.com/catalogue/ruler.php?id=5591

 

The coin should go under Brandeburg Prussia probably?

https://www.kuenker.de/de/archiv/stueck/119814

What's different to all the other 30-year-war town issuers already approved, some of them even by yourself?

I may have told a mistake, simply added the sourcelink stating George William and Brandeburg Prussia, I let referees decide :-)

Compendium

Its him according to the source I believe: https://fr.numista.com/catalogue/ruler.php?id=5591

 

 

Yes!  Thank you.  That makes sense with the W on the coin (WIlhelm).

I will add the ruling authority.

Compendium

 

The coin should go under Brandeburg Prussia probably?

https://www.kuenker.de/de/archiv/stueck/119814

It's another small place that today is in Poland, and during earlier parts of its history was under the Bohemian crown, then Brandenburg (when this coin was struck) then Saxony.

We have many of these under Silesia and I think are planning to look at this area together. 

tdziemiathen Brandenburg (when this coin was struck)

That's true for all these 30-year-war town issues. So again, what's different with this one? Will all these issuers get deleted again?

I don't think so.  We are trying to make the  best possible decision about whether a town/city is an issuer or a mint.  For Guben which you submitted recently, the city was given the right to issue coins, so it was set up as an issuer (not just a mint).

The text in KM you cited says the Bibersteins had minting rights in the 15th century, and that these coins were struck by the Lord of Promnitz who was the local ruling authority and sounds like he had minting rights.  I could not find the name of that Lord.  

There is some confusion because KM says the Lord of Promnitz struck coins “in league with the Elector of Saxony," who would have been Jan Georg I, but Kunker places the coin under Brandenburg, which is consistent with the history I can find that says Sorau changed hands from Brandenburg to Saxony in 1638, and with a ruler with a name starting with W as pointed out by Compendium.  

Regardless, if the coin was struck under authority of a local lord (Promnitz), I think it should be an issuer.    

Found him:  https://de.wikipedia.org/wiki/Heinrich_Anselm_von_Promnitz

Here the coin to move then :-)

N#399359

Some of places like these are tough to establish, as unification of some territories into another usually went through phase where “senior/larger” issuer ruler took the smaller title and continued to issue coins in the smaller issuer, while ruling both issuers at once and only when new ruler was established, the union was finalized.

Compendium

Here the coin to move then :-)

N#399359

I hope this won't be forgotten. Whoever moved it out should move it back in I suppose.

Trooper8

Compendium

Here the coin to move then :-)

N#399359

I hope this won't be forgotten. Whoever moved it out should move it back in I suppose.

Done