Ruling Authorities: Golden Horde [επιλυμένο]

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Hello!

 

For the ruling authorities, a lot are already on Numista, although I requested some changes for names (for consistency with other rulers) and dates (usually just changing commas to semi-colons). Here is the general list, lines 75 to 116:

https://docs.google.com/spreadsheets/d/17Cp1TyzOXknGDZu8_YCmwgd4gS56GvxvIATQW40rYmM/edit?usp=sharing
 

Golden Horde 

Timur Khwāja (N#362500)

Uljay Timur (page 222 - J2046 AE fals, struck only at Saray al-Jadida and dated 768)

Pulad Khwaja (page 222 - A2044 AR dirham (1.56g), mint of Gulistan only)

Tulun Beg Khanum (https://www.acsearch.info/search.html?id=1278229)

Hajji Cherkes Beg, 1374-1375 (page 222 - A2048 AE pul, with name of ruler, struck only at Hajji Tarkhan in 776)

Qaghan Beg (https://www.zeno.ru/showphoto.php?photo=4623)

Beg Qibal, circa 1370-1389 (page 223 - O2048 AR dirham, perhaps 1.17g / Saray al-Jadida)
Karim Berdi, 1409; 1412-1413; 1414 (N#361092)

Jabbar Berdi, 1414-1415; 1416-1417 (https://www.acsearch.info/search.html?id=9250403)

Qadir Berdi, circa 1419-1420 (page 224 - H2058 AR dirham (possibly 0.67g), mint of Bulghar )
Sayyid Ahmad I, circa 1417 (page 224 - S2057 AR dirham (weight unknown) RRR Known from Urdu-yi Mu‘azzam (dated 819))
Sayyid Ahmad II, 1433-1435 (https://www.acsearch.info/search.html?id=8052442)

Murtaza, 1481-1499 (page 224 - D2063 AR dirham, Ordu Bazar mint / undated)
 

Qrim, Emirate of
Toqa Temür ibn Jochi, circa 1257-1275, Q2738819 (https://www.acsearch.info/search.html?id=3347860)

Saqchi Khanate
Noghay, circa 1270-1300 (https://en.numista.com/catalogue/golden_horde-1.html#r_golden_horde5939)

Kazan Khanate
Ulugh Muhammad, 1438-1447 (page 224 - 2058H AR dirham (0.58g), without mint name)
Sibir and the East
Mahmud Khwaja, 1419-1420 (N#329905)


Sufid dynasty
Husayn, 1361-1373 (N#134380)
Ilbak, circa 1373 (N#325880)
Yusuf, 1373-1379 (https://www.acsearch.info/search.html?id=2127247)

 

Eastern Juchid Ulus / White Horde
Mubarak Khwaja, circa 1365-1369 (page 222 - L2046 AR dirham (1.46g), mint Sighnaq, 768 & 769)
https://www.zeno.ru/showphoto.php?photo=4595
Urus, 1369-1370; 1373-1374; 1375-1377 **** ON NUMISTA / MOVE
https://en.numista.com/catalogue/golden_horde-2.html#r_golden_horde5959
Khizr II Beg ibn Ibrahim, 1379 (N#325909)
Kunche, 1379-1393 (N#325796)
(N#325899)
 

And related:

Second Bulgarian Empire
Chaka, tsar, 1299-1300 (N#150770)

Thank you for making this job!!!

 

Some comments:

 

Timur Khwāja - Please name it as Timur Khwaja or Timur Khoja that is much better

Uljay Timur +

Pulad Khwaja - the same, I think Pulad Khoja is better

Tulun Beg Khanum - it is here: https://en.numista.com/catalogue/ruler.php?id=5956. Please rename instead of creation a new one

Hajji Cherkes Beg - please add him as Cherkes Beg 

Qaghan Beg +

Beg Qibal - no need to add him. His coins have been attributed to Timur Qutluq

Karim Berdi - please add as Kerim Berdi

Jabbar Berdi + 

Qadir Berdi - Qader Berdi, plz
Sayyid Ahmad I +
Sayyid Ahmad II+

Murtaza - possibly Murtadha is better

 

Toqa Temür ibn Jochi, - please add him as Tuqa-Timur, ruler of Golden Horde

Noghay - he is here: https://en.numista.com/catalogue/ruler.php?id=5939, no need to add

Ulugh Muhammad - he is here: https://en.numista.com/catalogue/ruler.php?id=5982, no need to add

Mahmud Khwaja - Please add him as Mahmud Khoja, ruler of Golden Horde

 

Sufid dynasty rulers - depending of the decision to create a separate issuer…

 

White Horde - depending on decision to create a separate issuer…

Mubarak Khwaja - Mubarak Khoja is better, I think

Urus - he is here: https://en.numista.com/catalogue/ruler.php?id=5959. Please leave it as a Khan of Golden Horde anyway

Khizr II and Kunche - Please create them anyway. Then they may be moved together with the coins

 

 

My personal list of scammers from Numista: erniemix, yvain, CassTaylor

Hello!

 

I modified the Google Sheet to include all spellings you listed, so that means lines 75 to 95 could be completed (just those related directly to the Golden Horde).

 

I still changed the spellings of the other rulers, but of course, they would be pending the discussion on the new issuer thread.  :)

Η κατάσταση άλλαξε σε Ολοκληρώθηκε. (Compendium, 4 Δεκ 2023, 17:15)

done

Thank you. All pending.  :)

https://en.numista.com/catalogue/ruler.php?id=5987 - please rename to Sheikh Ahmed and remove the name Sayyid Ahmad II, they are different people (but brothers). Detailes: https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Sheikh_Ahmed

 

https://en.numista.com/catalogue/ruler.php?id=11419 - please rename to Sayyid Ahmad II, AKA Said Ahmad II, AKA  Sayyid Ahmad I, AKA Said Ahmad I

 

https://en.numista.com/catalogue/ruler.php?id=11418 - add date of rule at 819 AH (1416–1417), description: protégé of Edigu, grandson of Tokhtamysh, AKA  Said Ahmad I

 

Said Ahmad I (1416–1417) minted coins in Haji Tarkhan, Ordu Muazam and Bek Bazar. Said Ahmad II (who ruled in 1430 - 1450’s) minted dangs with his name in Ordu Bazar and Bek Bazar,  with a sufficient degree of certainty we can predict in future discovery of new types and new mints of this khan. Coins of Said Ahmad III (the penultimate decade of the XV century) at the present are not known, but their existence can not be denied in principle.

My personal list of scammers from Numista: erniemix, yvain, CassTaylor

Grinya

https://en.numista.com/catalogue/ruler.php?id=5987 - please rename to Sheikh Ahmed and remove the name Sayyid Ahmad II, they are different people (but brothers). Detailes: https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Sheikh_Ahmed

 

https://en.numista.com/catalogue/ruler.php?id=11419 - please rename to Sayyid Ahmad II, AKA Said Ahmad II, AKA  Sayyid Ahmad I, AKA Said Ahmad I

 

https://en.numista.com/catalogue/ruler.php?id=11418 - add date of rule at 819 AH (1416–1417), description: protégé of Edigu, grandson of Tokhtamysh, AKA  Said Ahmad I

 

Said Ahmad I (1416–1417) minted coins in Haji Tarkhan, Ordu Muazam and Bek Bazar. Said Ahmad II (who ruled in 1430 - 1450’s) minted dangs with his name in Ordu Bazar and Bek Bazar,  with a sufficient degree of certainty we can predict in future discovery of new types and new mints of this khan. Coins of Said Ahmad III (the penultimate decade of the XV century) at the present are not known, but their existence can not be denied in principle.

 

 

 

 

all done, thanks

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