Object in exergue in Slovakia

A 1941 silver 20 Korún of Slovakia, N# 6483, shows Saints Cyril and Methodius standing on a scroll. An object below the scroll appears to be a man with a feathered headdress lying down (detail below).  

 What is the significance of this object, and does it have any relation to the scroll illustrating the Last Judgement which St. Methodius holds?

Welcome to numista.

Please give us the link to the page in Numista, otherwise we all have to search for it, which is accumulated a lot of effort….

Methodius' body was buried in the main cathedral church of Great Moravia, which is what you asked about. 

please read this page to understand what's all about:

https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Cyril_and_Methodius

Many thanks for the quick and helpful reply.  The link is N#6483

1906indian

Many thanks for the quick and helpful reply.  The link is N#6483

I know that, since I lost time finding it, but please always include the link, if you have identified the coin already.

1906indian

 What is the significance of this object, and does it have any relation to the scroll illustrating the Last Judgement which St. Methodius holds?

Nice day for the big pond.

   Your question on the symbolism depicted on the 20 SK coin- is for long study work ,,Slovak sculptor, woodcarver, puppeteer and medalist, art teacher, editor,,  Fraňo Štefunko

https://cs.isabart.org/person/5691

     The coin is from the period of independent Slovakia during the Second World War and depicts "the holy Thessaloniki brothers Cyril and Methodius" 

I was looking for the author's symbolism - I just couldn't find it, at least my opinion:

The brothers were sent at the request of the local ruler, the Prince, in a letter requesting the emperor from Byzantium- to send scholars to teach Christianity and teach to write and read- in his language.

On the coin is St. Cyril and his brother Methodius - And they stand - they trample the old gods of the Slavs into the ground (a Slavic god lies under their feet.

I don't know which one it is, maybe Radegast or Svrog - it's definitely not Perun, he would have lightning around him. And he certainly doesn't have a headdress with feathers on his head (like my nick picture) it is a kind of divine crown ( These statues were everywhere among the Slavs - their gods were carved there)  https://cs.wikipedia.org/wiki/Radegast

https://www.google.com/search?q=b%C5%AFh+svarog&tbm=isch&ved=2ahUKEwi_38nIjZ2CAxXmXqQEHUt3AkEQ2-cCegQIABAA&oq=b%C5%AFh+svarog&gs_lcp=CgNpbWcQAzIHCAAQGBCABDoECCMQJzoFCAAQgARQoxNYyydgzyxoAHAAeACAAWuIAd8EkgEDNi4xmAEAoAEBqgELZ3dzLXdpei1pbWfAAQE&sclient=img&ei=C0g_Zf-tIua9kdUPy-6JiAQ&bih=563&biw=1242&rlz=1C1NHXL_csCZ927CZ927

https://cs.wikipedia.org/wiki/Svarog

Then there are two churches on the left is the church in Moravia - the seat of the Great Moravian Empire and on the right the one with the double cross and the cross is the church on the hill "Zobor  in Nitra" - Slovakia

http://www.mistopis.eu/evropa/slovensko/nitransko/zobor.htm

The church in Nitra - it was a separate part of Great Moravia, not the designation of the Principality of Nitra, where the prince was subordinate.

https://cs.wikipedia.org/wiki/Velkomoravsk%C3%A1_%C5%99%C3%AD%C5%A1e

It's just from an unknown country - not even tokens - exonumia from the Great Moravian Empire, Numist strictly prohibits

The Slavs must not even have a mention of their statehood, the Franks-Germans would jump 3 meters high.

She - that symbolism plays a great artistic creativity among us Slavs
: here you see St. Methodius baptizing a local boy in a church with a double cross and the sign of the solstice is a simbol, etc.

https://gorazduv-denar.webnode.cz

And this is how we've been living here for a thousand years (we're not worth mentioning) - everything is meters and a few kilometers from my place of residence.

Ahoj Ivan

I must add: 

The scroll on which Methodius stands with his brother - standing and stepping on the old barbaric gods of the Slavs - is actually a work - a written teaching in the local language written in Glagolitic created by the brothers for the Slavs.

Divine services-liturgy (the turn of the church mass) -was translated into the language of the local people.

It was just a great act that the Germans and Franks could not and would not allow to happen: 

The Bishops of Passau wrote to the Pope in Rome - they slandered - they lied.

In the end, they brutally mutilated the ruler of Great Moravia (in prison, they gouged out his eyes, cut out his natural ones, mutilated him all over)
History is here, and not only here, but in the entire circle of Europe-Asia, forever recorded and passed on from father to son, and grandfathers pass this hatred on to their grandchildren. Therefore, the mention of exonumia- Token is strictly prohibited. ( It doesn't matter in dishwashers and neither do red houses.)

Ivan

Sjoelund

Methodius' body was buried in the main cathedral church of Great Moravia, which is what you asked about. 

Hello colleague - the one lying under the written work has a sword in his hands. Saint Methodius never carried a weapon. his weapon was religion - Christianity - he was a priest and a scholar.

Two kilometers from my house, he taught local new priests in the church who were supposed to spread his work further among the people.

His grave is still unspecified, where there are two or three hypotheses that could leave the remains, but nothing is certain.

If the body was found in his hands, he would have a bishop's crooked staff - the symbol of bishops.

The sword is a symbol of combat - killing, not learning.

Ivan

Hi Ivan,

thanks for your in deep explanation of the “man under the floor”. I like such stories.

MIMAEL

Sjoelund

Methodius' body was buried in the main cathedral church of Great Moravia, which is what you asked about. 

Hello colleague - the one lying under the written work has a sword in his hands. Saint Methodius never carried a weapon. his weapon was religion - Christianity - he was a priest and a scholar.

Two kilometers from my house, he taught local new priests in the church who were supposed to spread his work further among the people.

His grave is still unspecified, where there are two or three hypotheses that could leave the remains, but nothing is certain.

If the body was found in his hands, he would have a bishop's crooked staff - the symbol of bishops.

The sword is a symbol of combat - killing, not learning.

Ivan

Thank you!  I have seen this question asked before (about the figure at the bottom), but never with a good answer.  So I am glad to see it answered.

As you know, I am interested in Christian saints (and their iconography) on coins, so I agree that this type of “missionary saint” would not be pictured with a weapon (more likely, the weapon would be piercing him!).

However, we do have other kinds of “military saints” whose iconography features a weapon:

- Saint Michael who spears a sperpent

- Saint Paul, whose attributes are a sword from his “first career” as a Roman soldier and a book from his second career.

- Saints George, Demetrius, Theodore who the Byzantines endowed with a sword in days when they were always in need of a better defense (and in the case of George, the dragon was added later)

tdziemia

However, we do have other kinds of “military saints” whose iconography features a weapon:

Yes, I agree - my favorite is St. Martin. I grew up in this city in Slovakia, in the center of a city of 40,000 people.

https://cs.wikipedia.org/wiki/Martin_z_Tours

And it was in this city where I grew up, lived and created the mentioned medalist 

Fraňo Štefunko died in the city of St. Martin , † 6/4/1974, Martin (Martin), Slovakia (Slovakia) teacher, sculptor, carver, medalist

And I'm currently in the 4th grade of primary school - so it's highly likely that we met on walks.

Saint Martin was a Roman soldier always with a weapon.

I generally have some coincidences - for example, St. Methodius had to walk several times through my current garden and under the windows of my house - this was the way to the monk's church where he taught.

Yes, history is history, you can't change it just by bowing to the memory of the wise men of your time.

Ahoj and big greetings.

Ivan

MIMAEL

 

Nice day for the big pond.

   Your question on the symbolism depicted on the 20 SK coin- is for long study work ,,Slovak sculptor, woodcarver, puppeteer and medalist, art teacher, editor,,  Fraňo Štefunko …

Hi,

Thank you for the very interesting and informative reply

Scott