1 Florin - real?

Please, is this coin real or fake? Just asking, for being sure. :-)

Measurements please?

Link to numista page, please?

Sjoelund

Measurements please?

 

Link to numista page, please?

N#4726

This one. 

Cleaned but yes, real.

Is 57 USD good for this one?

You are the buyer, make your own opinion, it's your money, isn't it? Do your own research, like we all do nearly all the time….

I'll just leave this here and let you decide. But I will add grading is subjective and as such, I'd grade this as F.

cro321

 

I'll just leave this here and let you decide. But I will add grading is subjective and as such, I'd grade this as F.

You're helping too much, that's from numista, where he's a member, so he ought to have found it himself, no?

Sjoelund

cro321

 

I'll just leave this here and let you decide. But I will add grading is subjective and as such, I'd grade this as F.

You're helping too much, that's from numista, where he's a member, so he ought to have found it himself, no?

You're right but it's a new member, the way I see this is a tip for the future. 🙂

Ok. 

Sjoelund

Ok. 

I know this fuction. However, those prices are a “little bit” old.

There you are. You are already informed. So learn to build your own opinion.

CzechLord

 

I know this fuction. However, those prices are a “little bit” old.

Not really. The function was added to Numista just a few years back and is fairly accurate, especially for common coins. Each time someone adds a coin to his Numista collection and enters its price the page is updated. Common coins are being added on a regular basis making the prices up to date.

CzechLord

 

I know this fuction. However, those prices are a “little bit” old.

Seems pretty good to me.

hello,

this coin seems authentic and i cannot see an interest in counterfeiing.

Second, i would wait for a better opportunity, better price or better coin.

That's your opinion but not your money. Let the guy learn to be responsible of his choices.

Sjoelund

That's your opinion but not your money. Let the guy learn to be responsible of his choices.

We only try to give a feedback, as good as possible.

That's OK, but the OP seems to live on that, asking and asking for help. The OP doesn't seem to be very proactive on his own…. and I don't try any more.

Sjoelund

That's OK, but the OP seems to live on that, asking and asking for help. The OP doesn't seem to be very proactive on his own…. and I don't try any more.

I am sorry for asking too many questions. I dont have any good sources where to learn. I dont want to ne annoying, so I am sorry.

I live in the Czech Republic. Czech people sell this coin in this state for this +- 50 USD price. And people buy it. 

How did you find that it had been cleaned?

I dont want to argue.

How did you find that it had been cleaned?

Cleaned was my first thought as well. The coin can't retain it's original mint lustre whilst being worn away so much. You can also see traces of a dark patina around the lettering on both sides of the coin. An original lustre will be clean in all the nooks and crannys, all the places that are really difficult to get clean. 

CzechLord

 

I live in the Czech Republic. Czech people sell this coin in this state for this +- 50 USD price. And people buy it. 

 

puubert already answered the it being cleaned part. I'll just add while an AU example of this coin very well may sell for 50$ an F example will not. Grade is important.

cro321

CzechLord

 

I live in the Czech Republic. Czech people sell this coin in this state for this +- 50 USD price. And people buy it. 

 

puubert already answered the it being cleaned part. I'll just add while an AU example of this coin very well may sell for 50$ an F example will not. Grade is important.

Ok

Hi, CzechLord.

There are many good sources of information online to find the value of coins near you.

You can search the completed auction results at auction houses:

https://katzauction.com/lots?to_page=1&auction_id=96

https://machochlapovic.com/en/auctions

You can look at the asking prices at dealers:

https://ma-shops.com

On condition, try to find an excellent example, then compare yours.  For example, if you look at this florin (from one of the retailers above), you see that the hair and beard of Franz Josef are very well-identifed, and on the reverse, the jewels on the crown and the orb are very clear and the sword is clearly outlined.  https://www.ma-shops.com/strasser/item.php?id=38158.  You coin has wear in all these areas.

These are some of the ways other collectors inform themselves.

tdziemia

Hi, CzechLord.

 

There are many good sources of information online to find the value of coins near you.

 

You can search the completed auction results at auction houses:

https://katzauction.com/lots?to_page=1&auction_id=96

https://machochlapovic.com/en/auctions

 

You can look at the asking prices at dealers:

https://ma-shops.com

 

On condition, try to find an excellent example, then compare yours.  For example, if you look at this florin (from one of the retailers above), you see that the hair and beard of Franz Josef are very well-identifed, and on the reverse, the jewels on the crown and the orb are very clear and the sword is clearly outlined.  https://www.ma-shops.com/strasser/item.php?id=38158.  You coin has wear in all these areas.

 

These are some of the ways other collectors inform themselves.

 

 

 

Maybe I used wrong words. I think sources about numismatics in general - mainly websites. I know many YouTube channels, but I think they all are a little bit showing rather than educating. 

This is what the coin should look like.