Adding a new issuer under France.

12 αναρτήσεις • προβλήθηκε 135 φορές

Σκοπός αυτού του μηνύματος: αίτημα δημιουργίας ή τροποποίησης εκδότη στον κατάλογο

Κατάσταση: Απερρίφθη
Θετικές ψήφοι: 2
Αρνητικές ψήφοι: 6

» Γρήγορη πρόσβαση στην τελευταία ανάρτηση

Greetings,

Is there a way to please make a new subsection under France called the First French colonial Empire? This would pretty much be a combination of France, New France,  French Colonies, and Saint Pierre and Miquelon. The reason I bring this up is there are some coins that circulated equally in France’s early colonies and France. I just feel it may be more descriptive instead of just saying France or New France or… I understand it would be a big change but if you could consider it that would be very kind. Thank you for your time and attention.

Interesting idea!

This would lead us to cut France in different vanished issuers like Kingdom of France, 1st empire etc, and to keep the current “France” only for contemporaneous period starting 1871 maybe? Or we'd put all Republics in it maybe

Yes, I agree. It would also help explain that some coins circulated equally in France and France‘s Colonies.

About what coins are you talking about?

For this request specifically for the First French Colonial Empire I believe these coins would be included: 15 Deniers - Louis XIV, 30 Deniers - Louis XIV, 1⁄60 Ecu - Louis XV Sou Marque/Double Sol, 1⁄120 Ecu - Louis XV. I will list specific links. Thank you for your interest and have a great day or night depending on your time zone.

 

N#37832

N#22499

N#15113

N#27843

Could the people who downvoted this please explain why? This would help me find the flaw in my idea so I can fix it, thank you. 

I agree with including comments that these coins circulated beyond France (like United States coins in our time). However, they should be listed under France.

Master Coin Referee
Coin referee for CRI, GTM, HND, NIC, PAN, and SLV.

Revisor principal de monedas
Revisor de Numista para monedas de CRI, GTM, HND, NIC, PAN y SLV.

Slava Ukraini and Free Palestine!

But if in total they circulated more in the colonies then wouldn’t it not make sense to say France? Why say France even though we could include these in the 1st French Colonial Empire if created?

I will again go back to the Sacagawea Dollar. Since these coins barely circulated in the United States and most got shipped to Ecuador, does it make sense to list them under Ecuador? This is essentially what you are proposing.

 

Similarly, we would not list the Maria Teresa Thaler under East Africa or the United States Trade Dollar or the Mexican Peso under East Asia, despite them frequently circulating in these areas.

 

Lastly, we are not adding the first French Colonial Empire as an issuer. This would be the equivalent of listing British coinage under the “British West Indies” simply because British coins circulated there as well.

Master Coin Referee
Coin referee for CRI, GTM, HND, NIC, PAN, and SLV.

Revisor principal de monedas
Revisor de Numista para monedas de CRI, GTM, HND, NIC, PAN y SLV.

Slava Ukraini and Free Palestine!

Some_Nerd

I will again go back to the Sacagawea Dollar. Since these coins barely circulated in the United States and most got shipped to Ecuador, does it make sense to list them under Ecuador? This is essentially what you are proposing.

 

Similarly, we would not list the Maria Teresa Thaler under East Africa or the United States Trade Dollar or the Mexican Peso under East Asia, despite them frequently circulating in these areas.

 

Lastly, we are not adding the first French Colonial Empire as an issuer. This would be the equivalent of listing British coinage under the “British West Indies” simply because British coins circulated there as well.

I don' t think it was his proposal. His proposal was to create a new issuer “First french empire” gathering all coins of France, colonies etc for a period of time. (Killing therefore the idea “france” goes from 987 to nowadays)

Indeed. My proposal was to create the First French Colonial Empire as a subsection of France.

Η κατάσταση άλλαξε σε Απερρίφθη. (Jarcek, 12 Οκτ 2022, 14:28)

This is covered by rulling authorities, and if implemented would open can of worms of literal thousands of new issuers like this.

Catalogue administrator

» Πολιτική φόρουμ

Η ζώνη ώρας που χρησιμοποιείται είναι η UTC+2:00.
Η ώρα είναι 10:34.