My first cartwheel

I just bought my first cartwheel. It's a 1797 in very fine I would guess. But it has a hole drilled half way through poor George's ear. He looks like one of those goth kids at the mall! But anyway. The hole is about as big as the lead in a pencil and goes about 2/3 the way throu.  Only other damage is minor rim nicks. I paid $22 for it. Did I pay too much? I might be able to add a pic shortly.

I think this  https://en.numista.com/catalogue/pieces1287.html  is the one I have.

I have a couple or 3 that I have purchased with minor damage or worn, but not drilled, for under $10... It would help to see a photo.

Really? I never see them for under $30 if they are in a collectable condition.
I'm  working on a pict but my phone don't like me today.

My bad, when you said cartwheel I assumed you meant the penny, which is more common, not the two pence.... Disregard.

Here are some pictures.. Do y'all agree on VF condition? Is $22 to much.

No problem Harry. I'm all but sure it is the 2 pence. It measures 41mm-ish. I don't have my scales to weigh it rite now.

Thats a Very Nice 2p !! I really love these big old coppers.. In my opinion, taking only the details and wear into account, I would say mid to high VF is correct..  I'm better at grading U.S. coins, and these may be graded differently.  But I know the rim dents and holes are murder on grading. And coins with this damage are valued much less, in any grade.

Not sure how big of a chunk the rim damage and hole take away from it's VF value. But I think if VF lists at $45 and the damage shown removed half the value then $22 would be about right. I think that amount would be subjective to what someone would pay for a damaged piece.  

It's a fine piece though and I'd be proud to own it.

Indeed. I would have bought it even if I didn't think it "worth" as much. I've been wanting to add these to my collection and this is a nice example. The hole does hurt my heart as well as the value, but I am happy with it I think.

I agree, and I am also looking for one to add to my collection. If I came across one at a reasonable price, even with damage I would not hesitate to buy it.

There actually very common in lower grades, people kept hold of them as 2 ounce weights and this was the only two pence of this size issued, you can buy them up to fine, very fine £10-£50, if yours didn't have the hole i would say what you paid was about right, now higher grades with no edge knocks are very rare EF- Unc you're looking at from £200- £1000 they are a popular coin as well so will no doubt increase in value, i've got 1 with no edge knocks in about fine, bought for £3 10 years ago.

It's a beautiful coin, ctucker. Even with the hole. Congratulations on the purchase.

Thank you. I think I'll enjoy it.

A F+ sold on eBay last week for £7 "/ just missed out on it f+ seems to be 10-15 ATM

I'm pretty sure I was outbid on the same coin on eBay or it was in my watch list at some time. It sticks in my mind because of the unusual place to drill a hole, normally it's near the rim to make a pendant.

Απόσπασμα: pnightingaleI'm pretty sure I was outbid on the same coin on eBay or it was in my watch list at some time. It sticks in my mind because of the unusual place to drill a hole, normally it's near the rim to make a pendant.

Could be the same one, the guy I got it from said that he put a lot of coins on Ebay. Maybe it had a reserve that wasn't met or something. He told me that it was bought as part of an estate.

Απόσπασμα: ctucker

Απόσπασμα: pnightingaleI'm pretty sure I was outbid on the same coin on eBay or it was in my watch list at some time. It sticks in my mind because of the unusual place to drill a hole, normally it's near the rim to make a pendant.

Could be the same one, the guy I got it from said that he put a lot of coins on Ebay. Maybe it had a reserve that wasn't met or something. He told me that it was bought as part of an estate.

Well if it wasn't to be mine, I'm pleased it found a good home with you :)

Thanks. I do enjoy it

On a side: could you imagine carrying a crown's worth of these things in your pocket? I'm wondering if the belt technology of that era was up to the task

Mate.. That's why they all rode horses and donkeys lmao !

someone just tossed me 2 one pence and a twopence (both cartwheels) for free, but you can barely see anything, one is in F-