2 Kopecks - Elizaveta value under horseman; reticulated edge [επιλυμένο]

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Hello, this coin was minted in 4 different mints, but only the Red Mint is listed on the coin page. Mentioning all four mints next to each year is not very convenient, besides, I would also like to write the numbers according to Bitkin. Therefore, it would be more convenient to write down each year, for each mint, in a separate line.

I would like to add lines over the years. Below are all the mints that minted this coin, with varieties according to Bitkin.

 

Krasny Mint, Moscow:           Ekaterinburg Mint:

year:         #Bitkin                      year:      #Bitkin

1757         #391                           1757      #468

1758         #392                           1758      #470

1759         #393                           1759      #472

1760         #394                           1760      #474

1761         #395                           1761      #475

                                                        1762      #476

 

St.Petersburg  Mint:              Sestroretsk Mint:

year:       #Bitkin                       year:       #Bitkin

1757       #538                            1757       #544

1758       #541                            1758       #545

1759       #542

Please give the link to the coin in the numista catalog.

Globetrotter
Coin varieties in French:
https://monnaiesetvarietes.numista.com

N#88815

Where are the mint marks? How do you distinguish between the 4 mints if there is no mint mark on the coins? 

Globetrotter
Coin varieties in French:
https://monnaiesetvarietes.numista.com

1)https://numar.ru/coins/elizaveta/mednye/2-kopeiki/1757

2)https://coins.su/forum/topic/172387-otlichitelnye-osobennosti-2-kopeek-1757-1762-po-monetnym-dvoram/

 

These two sites are in Russian, fortunately now phones and computers do the translation of the text automatically.  I will later supplement the page with this coin in the numista catalog, and add the abbreviations of the mints written in Russian, with translation into English, so that you can understand from the pictures on these sites which mint the coin belongs to.

"Pejounet" edited 2 similar coins yesterday, this type, he is already familiar with these sites.

Well, well, so it's being done. Thanks.

Globetrotter
Coin varieties in French:
https://monnaiesetvarietes.numista.com

Sjoelund

Where are the mint marks? How do you distinguish between the 4 mints if there is no mint mark on the coins? 

Good question, how are these types distinguished?

Catalogue administrator

I think for the Numista catalog it would be enough to add the 4 mint at “Mint” section removing them from the year lines and add a link to the thread at coins.su with a comment “how to distinguish between the mints (in Russian)”

My personal list of scammers from Numista: erniemix, yvain, CassTaylor

Using outside websites to determine variants is bad practice. Who knows how long the site/page stays or if the link changes.

Also all the explanations in the pictures are in Russian and not easily machine translatable.

 

Don't we have a Russian coin expert amongst our members who could make something like Ole or with his aid?

Idolenz

Using outside websites to determine variants is bad practice. Who knows how long the site/page stays or if the link changes.

Also all the explanations in the pictures are in Russian and not easily machine translatable.

 

Don't we have a Russian coin expert amongst our members who could make something like Ole or with his aid?

No problem, I'll  of course help, if I get some useful images to work with. Or some valid documentation, but I don't read Russian @

 

I tried to go to coins.su, but of course I couldn't find anything, it's all Russian to me!

Globetrotter
Coin varieties in French:
https://monnaiesetvarietes.numista.com

You can do it like here, with the listing of numbers according to Bitkin, opposite each year.

 

N#45135

Mints, already added, awaiting confirmation

The details can be put in comments like this page mentioned above with external site just as source link: the information is kept even if the website go down.

 

I will check this 2 kopecks variants and align with the formatting I used for the Bit# 443-457. Depending on the variant, edge type vary (lettered vs. reticulated) and some have mint name in full on the edge, or a mintmark (reversely stamp) above the crown.

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Η κατάσταση άλλαξε σε Ξεκινημένο. (pejounet, 21 Ιουλ 2022, 17:39)

Bitkin numbers that are written on top, all with a reticulated edge.

I prefer to let you, the experts, do it.

Globetrotter
Coin varieties in French:
https://monnaiesetvarietes.numista.com
Η κατάσταση άλλαξε σε Ολοκληρώθηκε. (pejounet, 21 Ιουλ 2022, 18:58)

Thanks!

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