Another new month, another new coins thread. Lets see them.
My computer died on April 19 and it was in the shop until Friday, now have it back better than ever.
This happened the same time I became referee!
Some of the coins I got, I now have "jurisdiction" over
Fiji 1941 Florin, this is a"uber" key coin in the series just 20,000 minted and one of the least represented in most Fiji collections, this is a very nice EF example with lustre.
1945 Florin, not as rare but still a scarce coin, especially in gEF. This was the only coin minted in 1945 for Fiji and it was also the last silver circulation coin issued for Fiji. It was the first coin reissued after the 1942/43 American issues. The next florin would not be issued until 1957 and in base metal.
Next South African Florins - One worn but neat, the other little wear but very grubby! Like Ireland this is a secondary country after my main one, but interests me as I also collect the stamps of it.
1924 - Second year of the Union coinage (There is the earlier Kruger coinage of the 1890s) this one is a split grade, the Reverse is close to VF, the Obverse would probably not even be Fine (High VG). Still a nice coin as early SA coins are often found very worn (I have some that are basically flat discs).
1933 - Very grubby but EF, the seller did not send a Obverse shot, so it must be pretty bad. This is one of the few time I think, should I clean it?
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After the three additions yesterday, I got three more later in the evening ...
'Scarce Half Sovereign Token - Guide Post village (near Newcastle upon Tyne)'
Guide Post is a village in South East Northumberland, England, about 17 miles (27 km)
North of Newcastle upon Tyne. It lies south of the River Wansbeck.
'Royal Albert Hall International Exhibition medal, 1872, jointly by A.B. and J.S. Wyon'
1872 Victoria Medal Struck at London International Exhibition by J.S. & A.B. Wyon
Reverse: The Albert Hall, legend in Tablet below, "STRUCK IN EXHIBITION MDCCCLXXII"
Obverse: Industry, Britannia & Mercury facing left. Signed J.S. & A.B. Wyon
Specs: White Metal Diameter: 30mm Weight: 11.74gms Catalogue: BHM 2943
'Farthing token - JNo. Lamb Purton & Cricklade - Wiltshire'
Obverse: JNo LAMB. PURTON & CRICKLADE / DRAPER & GROCER
Lettering curved above and below. Lamb standing left.
Reverse: IMPORTER OF UNDRESS'D IRISH LINEN
Lettering around. Commerce seated left with cornucopia.
Edge: Reeded. Diameter: 21mm. Catalogue: W. 4385
Hong Kong 1997 Changeover set - 2 of them for some reason
NZ Anzac 50 cent coin in folder (Seems silly when you could buy a roll for $10). It even had a card for you to "authenticate" the coin and get a certificate of authenticity. So its fake until then?
Oh well, thats the luck of the draw, it closed May 31st 2015!
Horrendous NZ NCLT Narnia coin set, these are crown sized 50 cent coins showing Narnia characters.
More horrendous LOTR crap, I bought this collection for the notes in the next post.
I love coins. Especially silver, gold and anything really old.
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Some fine banknotes that made up what I paid for it.
(The Narnia coins and Anzac 50 cents are catalogued at $80 and $45, who would pay that?)
Australia $50 Note, Howard Florey special edition.
Very nice South African £10 note
Pick 98 - English on Top line - dated 1955 and a huge horseblanket style note.
Australian $20s overmarked Emergency Services (1997) and Maritime heritage (1999). Both like the Florey note have low serial numbers. Tied in with stamp issues from that year.
Also 10 x SA 1 rand notes with Consecutive serial numbers - Pick 115/16?
NZ 1990 Commem $10 note, great note shame about hideous dated late 80s packaging!
NZ 2000 Millienium $10 notes with Red and Black serial numbers.
I love coins. Especially silver, gold and anything really old.
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This really is beautiful, not your everyday coin. Congrats!
I collect and deal in ancient Roman coin. In case you're looking for affordable ancient coins or need any help with the coins you already have send me a message.
Απόσπασμα: "Slipstreamed"Beautiful! I especially like the playing cards.
Thanks! After those four last night, there are eight items [19:57 to 22:11 times] I might win
tonight, hopefully. Will see in about five hours how many I actually get.
since I've been gone for a bit quite a few additions I'm especially happy about my USA trime.
Also I'm now deciding to do my collection by type mainly instead of all the years so soon most of my coins in my non swap collection will be available this includes silver btw just FYI
From the reply yesterday, after I got the first item [27mm jeton] I looked at other items
from the same seller; the first two below I also now got - so the three can be sent together.
The last item [1820] below, I got just now (the only item from the first four of tonight's
eight that did not go beyond my price range). Still four more to go in next few hours.
Απόσπασμα: "Moneytane"Another new month, another new coins thread. Lets see them.
My computer died on April 19 and it was in the shop until Friday, now have it back better than ever.
This happened the same time I became referee!
Some of the coins I got, I now have "jurisdiction" over
Hi, moneytane. I'm also a sorta-new-referee (since Fall 2021). So welcome on board!
Love that early Persian coin, the homemade artwork is very nice.
Thanks tdiziema - its been a baptism of fire so far, forgot Fiji is littered with NCLT and as you know on CCF I do not like NCLT!
Here is some more stereotypical Moneytane coins for you all!
UNC 1949 British Florin, these coins are dime a dozen in average (Read Fine and even VF) condition - but in stunning UNC they are much more scarce, as one of my friends said, back in the 50s they were too busy spending them to hold on to them like this. I guess so as a Florin had some buying power then!
Proof 1950 Florin, likely from the Mid century proof set, a set issued for what reason I do not know, but I like it and its super low mintage (17513) in an era of 8 figure mintages for all Florins and Halfcrowns.
1951 Proof Florin, this looks even more "Proof" than the one above - there is an attempt at cameoing the floral devices. Another creamy piece.
Again hammering home the incurable obsession of Halfcrowns!
1950 Halfcrown, again from that mid century set. All sellers photos and so far every coin I have brought off them has looked better in the flesh!
I love coins. Especially silver, gold and anything really old.
Member of the Royal Numismatic Society of New Zealand and the Auckland Numismatic Society
I love coins. Especially silver, gold and anything really old.
Member of the Royal Numismatic Society of New Zealand and the Auckland Numismatic Society
Bought into a set of 100F coins from just before the euro introduction. Still 3 more to complete the series. Lovely coins that I was eyeing for a while and finally purchased them on impulse when I was down with Covid a few weeks ago (idle hands means devils workshop .. that being eBay lol)
While checking some of my favourite Sellers on ebay, I stumbled across this 1614 piece. My first “hit” on the internet was an old post on Numista (well done folks!). https://en.numista.com/forum/topic87801.html
With these extra data points it was time to “dig in” and see if it was worth a bid (and it was!!).
From my research this is not a token or notgeld, but a mereau. Collecting méreaux is called merellophylia. Originally used by the clergy from the 13th century, they started to appear in dominations in the 15th century meaning they could be converted into current currency. They had largely disappeared by the end of the 18th century.
Belgium has been the battleground of European powers for centuries earning them the moniker of "Battlefield of Europe" (never mind just WWI and WWII). At this time (1614) Tournai, Hainaut was not Belgium but the Low Countries, with the French, Hapsburgs, Dutch, and Spanish all influencing their society. Never too late to learn, as up until now I only knew about Belgian waffles.
I tried to equate this mereau to the currency of the day (considering all the political influences) and my best guess was the Liard of feudal France (copper, weight, diameter). But, upon receiving the piece, it looks like it was silver plated. So perhaps the Douzain.
I’ll add this to my World collection, circulating pre-1962, Low Countries. I will not submit to the Numista database as I believe it will end up in our garbage pail of Exonumia.
It ain't what you don't know that gets you into trouble. It's what you know for sure, that just ain't so. Mark Twain
Saw that note on CCF - It is very beautiful and must be one of the very oldest put out by Ireland just after the British had been given the heave ho.
My latest purchases feature more 1860s and 1870s NZ Tradesmens tokens.
1875 Hurley Penny, VF but a few knocks
1870s Gaisford and Evans (Budget coin dug up in arachaeology) - Fine, damaged
De Carle Penny 1862 Dunedin Fine with central wear
United Service Hotel (VF stained) likely spent 100 years or more in a well
Of these coins, only the Hurley is full price, I brought these 3 cheaper ones as this is what 90% of surviving tradesmens tokens look like. There were no women issuers of these pieces, so I can say “Tradesmen” just for you woke people out there.
These halfcrowns came off a ship called the Elingamite which was wrecked in 1902, they were recovered sometime from 1967 onwards.
Basically VF but with 60+ years of sea based corrosion and ossification.
I love coins. Especially silver, gold and anything really old.
Member of the Royal Numismatic Society of New Zealand and the Auckland Numismatic Society
@Quant-Geek your last images in your post were better then what ever you've done now. Just don't center the image but align it left … anyone who wants to look at it in detail can right-click open it. No need for overly large images on the thread anyway.
@Quant-Geek your last images in your post were better then what ever you've done now. Just don't center the image but align it left … anyone who wants to look at it in detail can right-click open it. No need for overly large images on the thread anyway.
The problem is you are forcing me to upload pictures, which is even more time consuming as opposed to linking them. I am all for idiot-proofing interfaces, but you should never remove the option for advanced features. I use bbcode in almost all other forums to manage the post properly and that option has now been removed…
[…] which is even more time consuming as opposed to linking them. […]
I also would like some features of the BB-code back (maybe Xavier can allow some limited html code if something like that is even possible without compromising the whole site) … but what is time consuming? It takes maybe a second to copy-n'-paste your forumancientcoins pictures. Also very many server admins wouldn't even allow outside media links because every time the site gets visited the Numista server has to load from third-party servers creating traffic.
But if you really can't spare a second or two just post your forumacnientcoins links then you can save even half a second or so by not having to add BB code 💩
Holloway Penny 1858, British tokens which circulated widely in NZ and Australia. Holloway was a famous Mountebank, whos pills and potions dominated the 19th century, however he redeemed himself through charity works. This penny is one of the finest I have seen, must be EF or close to it. Most are worn flat.
Peace and Prosperity 1858. Victoria Australia, this is my first Australian token and I brought it mainly as the Justice motif appears on numerous NZ tokens too. Despite the ugly verdigris, its VF and must be my cheapest token to date - just $1.50!
I love coins. Especially silver, gold and anything really old.
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I brought 5 coins from the coin shop here in Auckland today, 4 British ones and this weird beauty.
As you know I love anything strange and exotic and this ticks all boxes. I barely knew about it, but I knew it was likely Ottoman Turkish and very old. I knew by the toughra and date AH 1223, we were looking at Mahmud II (1808 - 1838). It cost just $20 plus my usual discount, so I brought it!
I thought it was copper and likely a 5 para rather than 5 Kurush, but despite being copper looking it had a silvery ring and turns out it is like 17% silver - debased to heaven! Its also very large (39mm) and flat.
Even more interesting its my first Mahmud II coin (The first of great modernising Sultans, who introduced the Fez and broacaded vests and got rid of the Janissaries). Yet its still in the milled coin days of 1689 and 1844. The steam coin press only arrived in 1844, a gift from King Louis Philippe of France to Sultan Abdulmecid I.
I will show the British coins (Also 19th century coincidentally) soon.
I love coins. Especially silver, gold and anything really old.
Member of the Royal Numismatic Society of New Zealand and the Auckland Numismatic Society
Thanks guys - i suspected something like that as much, because most 5 Kurus coins from later on are shilling sized silver pieces. I read in a book that the Ottoman state was declared bankrupt in 1841, 1875, 1897, 1915 and 1922.
There must have been some recovery in the Tanzimat (Reform) period of the 1840s and 1850s.
Other coins I brought.
1817 King George III Halfcrown of the UK, nice but cleaned sadly - smaller head
1840 UK shilling - this is a decent and honest fine coin, even wear and early for Victorian silver.
Toned with some verdigris, but still a decent and cheap 1846 UK shilling, most pre 1870s coins of this type seen are flat discs. Queen Victoria actually still looked like the portrait when these came out. This type was issued for 50 years from 1838 to 1887 for those who did not know.
Very worn 1889 shilling, however it's scarce as its the “Small head” effigy, early on in 1889 they changed to a “Large head” type which is much more common. This grades good, but my large head 1889 is EF/AU!
More common large head shilling of 1889, notice size difference in portrait with both coins.
I love coins. Especially silver, gold and anything really old.
Member of the Royal Numismatic Society of New Zealand and the Auckland Numismatic Society
It's a nice group - the 4d piece was a groat, which were briefly issued between 1836 and 1855 mainly to deal with hansom cab drivers who charged in 4d units and refused to give change for 6d bits. They were called Joeys after the MP, Joseph Hume who proposed them in 1835.
The gothic florins are pretty good too and always beautiful coins (Dates are 1875 and 1878), and the 1913 Florin is a decent piece too. All good sterling silver. Yes the penny does look silvered - uttering was quite common in the mid - late 19th century. Uttering was the old word for altering coins to be deceptive. Pennies were used as they were 30.4mm in diameter and Gothic Florins were 29.5mm - a similar size and when worn the portraits showed little difference. In 1887, the next florin was issued at a much smaller diameter of 28.0mm to avoid confusion.
The worst type of this was a rush of people in 1887, breathing cigar smoke and dipping 6d coins and passing them off as half sovereigns (10/- = 120 pence, 6d = 6 pence). They changed the design of the 6d quickly back to the wreath coins as a result. This was similar to the American trick of doing the same to V nickels (5c) and passing them off as half eagles ($5 gold coins).
I love coins. Especially silver, gold and anything really old.
Member of the Royal Numismatic Society of New Zealand and the Auckland Numismatic Society
‘Crystal Palace Sydenham opened 1854 white metal medal by Pinches & G G Adams’
[Diameter: 63mm] [Leslie Allen catalogue: SY-1854/110] [BHM 2545, E1485]
Obverse: Conjoined heads of Queen Victoria and Prince Albert left; he is bare headed, she is crowned.
VICTORIA D G BRITANNIARUM REGINA F D ALBERTUS PRINCEPS CONJUX
G G ADAMS / MDCCCLIV
Reverse: A distant view of Crystal Palace. Britannia attended by Plenty and Learning. Fame with trumpet overhead.
ORNATUS PROPRIIS INDUSTRIA DONIS / G G ADAMS / MDCCCLIV
· This commemorative medal is made by George Gammon Adams. It commemorates the Opening of Crystal Palace, Sydenham 1854. After its removal from Hyde Park, the great glass building was recreated there. It was enlarged, divided into courts and a barrel roof added. There was also additionally a concert hall and menageries. The Queen opened the building on 10 June 1854 in the presence of some 40,000 people.
· George Gammon Adams (1821-1898) was a portrait sculptor and medallist. He designed and exhibited prize medals for the Great Exhibition. In 1852 he was chosen to model the death mask of Wellington. One of his public monuments is the 'Napier' statue in Trafalgar Square, London.
That token is stunning! You normally don't see them that nice.
It must have been a real pocket killer for whoever owned it. Especially if they collected 80 of them for that pound note!
I love coins. Especially silver, gold and anything really old.
Member of the Royal Numismatic Society of New Zealand and the Auckland Numismatic Society
That token is stunning! You normally don't see them that nice.
It must have been a real pocket killer for whoever owned it. Especially if they collected 80 of them for that pound note!
Now that I look at it in eBay via picclick, I think I was very lucky to get it in this grade because I actually didn't bid enough, at CDN $52 max on eBay. Well, I got it for CDN $46. I'm lucky that about two years ago I lost one of somewhat lower grade that went for a higher winning bid.
I had an extremely worn penny of that type but switched for some other token years ago.
A very generous Australian friend sent me all this stuff.
17 of the 26 $1 coins of the first Australian alphabet dollar series (2019)
Both sets of the 2nd and 3rd Alphabet dollars (2021 and 2022), the designs are a lot better
The Wiggles set with 4 x $2 coloured coins and the 2 NCLT $1 coins (2021)
Bag with odd Australian circulation coins I didn't have and some Turkish and Greek low values I needed along with old Dutch 10 cent coins.
I sent him a big lot of New Zealand silver earlier in the year, we have a very healthy swap relationship going on. Mostly I like the old silver coins, but thanks to him, I have a real yen for Australian circulation pieces.
Less joyful, adding every single alphabet dollar to the Numista coin page!
I love coins. Especially silver, gold and anything really old.
Member of the Royal Numismatic Society of New Zealand and the Auckland Numismatic Society
[LVDO XIII D G FR ET NA REX CHRISTIANAS // FRANC DATA MVNERA COELI XVII / RHEMIS WL 1615]
Obverse: Bust to the right of Louis XIII, draped and cuirassed, crowned head, with full ruff. Reverse: Hand emerging from the clouds and holding the Sainte-Ampoule above the city of Reims.
True, and you may have noticed that radrick007 added quite a lot of information to the page.
I didn't see it at first probably because I had done an earlier search restricted to circulating coins only, and forget to remove the restriction.
These pieces are very interesting. The Crown, in 1817, made the penny of the same series into virtual legal tender until March 1820, but not the three pence, and I am wondering whether there is any reason for this. For those interested: Statutes 57 Geo. III 1817 Chapter XLVI Section VI.
Is there any rhyme or reason why people are still posting in the “May” thread, when we have a “June” one going.
I love coins. Especially silver, gold and anything really old.
Member of the Royal Numismatic Society of New Zealand and the Auckland Numismatic Society
