New Zealand: 20 cents 1968 & 1970, km36.1, new year lines

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again the same problem as with the 2, 5 and 10 cent coins!

I have the same problem with a 1967 coin broken off his set. I just had to guess whether it came of the blue set or the pink set. I guess we're evolving to a guessing catalog.

Is that the proper way to go? I doubt it's in the idea of the founder

It certainly isn't in mine.

Hello everyone, Ole and Essor, the same thing happens to me with the following New Zealand coins:

1 Cent (KM # 33), years 1969 and 1977
2 Cents (KM # 32), years 1970 and 1979
5 Cents (KM # 34), years 1968, 1977, 1979, 1983 and 1984
20 Cents (KM # 36), year 1970.

As Ole says, I have inserted my coins in the line of the Set with the highest mintage, but obviously that would not be correct, since they are not coins in Set.

The first thing that makes me think is: really these years coins were issued only in Sets? And then, all this leads us to discussions of other posts, as you have already commented, of whether this is the correct path for the Numist Catalog.

As I said in my post on Australian coins, these various packages - if at all! - should be mentioned in comments. Otherwise, we'll lose the clarity of a COINS catalogue!

Hello All - It is pretty simple really ... The coins mentioned above by oynbcn were only released in Sets. From 1967 to 1970 New Zealand coins that were released in sets came in 2 different ways.

Some were just normal strike coins but placed in a thin plastic cover which had a Pink Label. Some were the same coins but polished or sometimes known as Prooflike. They were basically just "Specimen" uncirculated coins also placed in a similar thin plastic cover with a Blue label.

Here are 2 examples of the 1967 sets in Pink and Blue labels.



It is easy to tell them apart if you know a little about coins when you see them in the flesh in the set.
But if they have escaped into circulation it might be difficult.

From 1971 actual real Proof coins were issued in hard cased encapsulated plastic. The Bu sets were still issued in the thin plastic covers but no longer had the Pink Labels.

So with regards to the coins that oynbcn mentioned above this is the answer.

1969 New Zealand 1 cent - Was only issued in Sets, There were 2 sets
BU set 50,000 (Pink label), BU are just normal strike coins but Uncirculated.
Specimen Set 50,000 (Blue label), Specimen are what are also known as Prooflike or Polished coins.

1977 New Zealand 1 cent - Was only issued in Sets
There were 2 sets - BU set 20,000, Proof Set 12,000.

1970 New Zealand 2 Cents - Was only issued in Sets, There were 2 sets
BU set 30,000 (Pink label), BU are just normal strike coins but Uncirculated.
Specimen Set 20,000 (Blue label), Specimen are what are also known as Prooflike or Polished coins.

1979 New Zealand 2 Cents - Was only issued in Sets
There were 2 sets - BU set 25,000, Proof Set 16,000.

1968 New Zealand 5 cents - Was only issued in Sets, There were 2 sets
BU set 35,000 (Pink label), BU are just normal strike coins but Uncirculated.
Specimen Set 40,000 (Blue label), Specimen are what are also known as Prooflike or Polished coins.

1977 New Zealand 5 cents - Was only issued in Sets
There were 2 sets - BU set 16,000, Proof Set 11,000.

1979 New Zealand 5 Cents - Was only issued in Sets
There were 2 sets - BU set 25,000, Proof Set 16,000.

1983 New Zealand 5 Cents - Was only issued in Sets
There were 2 sets - BU set 25,000, Proof Set 18,000.

1984 New Zealand 5 Cents - Was only issued in Sets
There were 2 sets - BU set 25,000, Proof Set 15,000.

1970 New Zealand 20 Cents - Was only issued in Sets, There were 2 sets
BU set 30,000 (Pink label), BU are just normal strike coins but Uncirculated.
Specimen Set 20,000 (Blue label), Specimen are what are also known as Prooflike or Polished coins.

In Numista we always separate BU Sets from Proof Sets in all countries, not just New Zealand.

I hope that this answers your questions.

Take care and relax guys.

I'm with Mike here. We have correctly identified that there were two different UNC sets issued and as a result, there are two separate mintage lines for these issues. To introduce another mintage line for UNC issues 'of unknown origin' simply because a collector has a coin they believe to be from a broken set but they don't know which one, well that would be incorrect because it would represent a separate mintage and that would be numismatically inaccurate.

Slowly I don't care any longer, somebody has decided from the high chair, and that's it.