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kommodore

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I have this coin and I would need help to identify the exact variant.
Weight: 3.97 grams.
Diameter: 27 mm.

If you can please tell me the catalogue number.
Thanks.

eazy.dog

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this one? Jiang Ning

https://en.numista.com/catalogue/pieces29153.html

kommodore

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Yes, like I thought, but might be a variety?

eazy.dog

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No I think this is the right one.

ΑπόσπασμαQing dynasty. Bronze cash of Emperor Kangxi (1661-1722), mint of Jiangning (Nanking)
Kang Xi Tong Bao / Ning in Manchu and Ning in Chinese. 26.5mm, 3.9 grams. Issued 1662-1670.
The mint of Jiangning (Naniking)

Type 1 is comprised of coins with two dots and a nominal weight of 1.4 qian (= 5.22 grams).

This is one of a series of twenty coins known as “poem” coins (shi qian), which, according to folklore, have talismanic qualities when placed together. The coins were put in a specific order in which the mint names formed a “poem.” The poem did not have a particular meaning, but rhymed according to the rules of classical Chinese poetry.

kommodore

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Αναρτήθηκε: 7 Ιουν 2013, 21:24 #

It's the same.

KennyG

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Αναρτήθηκε: 7 Ιουν 2013, 22:50 #

Same coin, but there are varieties that aren't listed yet.

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kommodore

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Αναρτήθηκε: 7 Ιουν 2013, 22:51 #

I also have the S-1437 coin.
There are any varieties for this coin?
Or maybe other coin with the same characters?
Thank you both!

KennyG

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Αναρτήθηκε: 7 Ιουν 2013, 23:21 #

I'm in school.

In Numista we don't use Sjchoth (however you spell it) numbers because they list varieties differently, so I'm really not sure. I'll look into my book when I get home and identify the variety for you.

If it helps you out yours is open Tong.

Kenny

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kommodore

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FD2266 https://en.numista.com/catalogue/pieces2724.html
I am pretty sure i have this one too , unlike there's another coin identical to this.

KennyG

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Show images or I can't help you.

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kommodore

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Αναρτήθηκε: 7 Ιουν 2013, 23:36 #

I think left one: FD2266, right one: FD2263.
Am I right?

eazy.dog

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Αναρτήθηκε: 8 Ιουν 2013, 00:11 #

I am sure you are right.

but from FD2266 exist 2 variations.

FD2266

kommodore

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Mine seems first no?

eazy.dog

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Yes yours is first one, I say just for info =)

kommodore

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Excellent thank you.
Will add more from kangxi:)

KennyG

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Okay. Got my book here.

Usually it's the obverse that has the main variations, but yes you're right, it's 2263.

Where do you get these? Kangxi cash aren't very common.

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kommodore

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And all of these are 1 cash right?

KennyG

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Uhuh.

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kommodore

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New one:
3.08 grams.
24.5 mm.

Hartill 22.104?

KennyG

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Yeah, for now on give me DH numbers. So much easier to look up.

Yes, that's the one. I was only able to find DH#22.103, so lucky you, you found this one.

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kommodore

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Thank you very much.
So it's this one on Numista: https://en.numista.com/catalogue/pieces19747.html
But please add another line with - different top of "GUANG" -

KennyG

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Give me another week. It's not summer yet.

Seriously, HUGE change on China - Empire during the summer.

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kommodore

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Then unlock it please so I can add it.

kommodore

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Απόσπασμα: eazy.dogI am sure you are right.

but from FD2266 exist 2 variations.

FD2266

2.

smartonekg could you please add the second variation too? I also have this variation.
Add -different form of "JE" and "ZHE"- on this coin https://en.numista.com/catalogue/pieces2724.html

kommodore

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Απόσπασμα: kommodoreI have this coin and I would need help to identify the exact variant.
Weight: 3.97 grams.
Diameter: 27 mm.

If you can please tell me the catalogue number.
Thanks.

Also I have another coin which looks exactly like 22.119, now this coin(in the quote) seems like a variety because of the ning character has a longer line in the middle.

muralis

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I have similar sort of coins, but I am too lazy to find any info about them. here is some examples.

silver addict Latvian

eazy.dog

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Απόσπασμα: muralisbut I am too lazy to find any info about them.

lol...

kommodore

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Ok so I know these coins are h22.123 right?
But are these coins different ?
Or they are absolutely the same?
The left ones have about 4.5 grams, right ones about 3.5 grams.

eazy.dog

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For me the same

Hartill 22.123 = 4.72g
I think this is not really important, but maybe I am wrong.

KennyG

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Weight doesn't really matter with these coins.

...and Muralis, where did you get those? The one on the bottom is a pretty rare coin, from Xinjiang during the Daoguang era.

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muralis

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SmartOneKg, I got them in bulk lot of coins, I have more in my fatherland - Latvia- around one kilo I guess.
thanks for the info.

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kommodore

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So the above coins are absolutely the same?

muralis

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here is some more, but I am not sure if all of them are coins:

1. 3 of them looks like Japanese 4 Mon,

2. 3rd one looks more like token as coin

3. I did not sleep last night, so my hands shaking- very hard to make good photo : )

4. This one looks like token/ fake- very light and thin.

edit: ups, looks some of my coins are upside down

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kommodore

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What about this big coin:
weight: 14.37 grams
diameter: about 36 mm.

I'm pretty sure it's on the page 336 in Hartill catalogue but I can't identify exactly mine.
Help please.

KennyG

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Aha Muralis, get some sleep!

Whatever you said about being fake is fake. The Xianfeng and Xuantong coins are tokens. The first three are, like you said, 4 mon.

Kommodore, nice find! It's a Xianfeng 10 cash from Sichuan. This one is DH#22.978, or FD#2550.

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kommodore

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Thanks SmartOne, but why it says there emperor wen zong? I can't even find this emperor.
PS: Now I know it's his tomb name.

eazy.dog

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Απόσπασμα: kommodoreTHanks smartone, but why it says there emperor wen zong? can't even find this emperor.
PS: Now i know it's his tomb name:)

Birth Name: Zhu Yi 奕詝
Temple Name: Wen Zong 文宗
Honor Name: Xian Di 显帝
Era name: Xian Feng 咸丰

fliegendehollander

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The honour name of Xian Di is already abbreviated, the full is (deep breath)
Xiétiān Yìyùn Zhízhōng Chuímó Màodé Zhènwǔ Shèngxiào Yuāngōng Duānrén Kuānmǐn Zhuāngjiǎn XiǎnDi
協天翊運執中垂謨懋德振武聖孝淵恭端仁寬敏莊儉顯皇帝

Denn alles Fleisch, es ist wie Gras

kommodore

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help me with this one please

3.28 grams 25mm
thank you
It's hartil 14.8?

bbybugs Κριτής καταλόγου

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Απόσπασμα: kommodore

https://en.numista.com/catalogue/pieces20604.html

kommodore

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I've seen it but I need the exact variant - thank you.

KennyG

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The book should show you the variety of the coin.

It should be a right-upward crescent above the hole. I'm at school, so this is all based on my knowledge from the book.

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kommodore

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I'm pretty sure it's 14.8u in this page no?
http://www.beastcoins.com/China/China.htm

KennyG

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It MIGHT be different. Based on what I see, it looks different.

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kommodore

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So, could you help me please smartone?
With the coin from above

KennyG

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If you do coin orientation, it's variety Z.

I'm assuming that you did coin orientation when taking the photos.

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kommodore

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I've turned it on the right , I think it's medal orientation my picture.

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